There used to be a time when I thought Muslims and non Muslims could be friends. Now I firmly believe in the eradication of all religions through nonviolent means, like exclusion.

@Jazzy_Butts i have a muslim friend :blobcatopenmouth:
even though we don't hang out that much anymore ever since i told him i had a bf :blobcatthink:

@mario I'm sure there are very nice muslims, just like there are very nice cops, or very nice gang members, I still cannot trust them until they renounce their affiliation, because their membership in a group that opposes my way of life makes them an enemy

@Jazzy_Butts i thought the same way when i was like 17-19 years old. then i've met some muslims when i moved out of parents place and it turns out religion isn't a topic we ever discussed :akko_giggle:

@mario Lucky, I have been lied to too many times by religious filth, now when anyone says they're religious I treat them as a pool of water with a crocodile in it. Just because the surface is calm does not mean I am safe.

@mario Even "spiritual hippies" and "wiccans" are filth to me. Trash. They spew lies for fun, for a thrill, and it disgusts me. I used to be one of them, and I didn't even realize I was such a piece of shit, so arrogant, in my stupid unverifiable beliefs about energy and thoughts.

@Jazzy_Butts i get the sentiment, but i've come to the conclusion that i'm just as arrogant by discarding whole group of people who self-identify as something i disagree with

@mario In war, of course you want to gain allies from among the ranks of your enemies, you will need spies

@mario I'm just explaining to you my viewpoint, because you're right that it's unwise to burn bridges, unless it's wartime

@mario I think so, I think the religions have declared war on all nonmembers, certainly Christians have, and Muslims have.

@mario I see all the time, videos of ranting christians and muslims, I saw ranting christians up close growing up, a Christian or Muslim with the attitude of live and let live looks rare to me. They want everyone to be like them, and even when they seem nice they are in fact only tolerating others, and once they get power, control, become the majority, they start murdering outsiders, gays, and heretics.

@fluffy @mario Lucky, all I know is that if I had the two options to stay with a religious muslim/christian family, or die alone in the wilderness, I would make my peace and choose the wilderness. At least in the wilderness I won't be tortured to death when push comes to shove.

I'm a devout catholic and you couldn't be more wrong

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are the one proposing eradication of my kind and I would still give you shelter. Can you say the same of any other group?
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@fluffy @mario I fear your catholicism. I don't understand how you couldn't see why. I have been fooled too many times, the worm on a hook no longer tricks me, a hot meal and a bed is not enough to bribe me into submission, not any longer. "See how nice I have been, so you must see now that Christ is the way, right?" -it's not genuine charity, it's bribery and manipulation, and it is not laudable if it is indeed what I view it as, bribery, manipulation.

The last time I asked for charity from a church, when I was homeless, I was chased away. I slept that night under the library's roof. I would have gladly accepted whatever lip service they asked if it meant I didn't sleep out in the cold.

I find your story very difficult to believe.

@fluffy @mario I find your story difficult to believe as well, if that's worth anything to you.

@fluffy @Jazzy_Butts It wasn't from a church directly, but from the state. They lived on the top floor of a (smol) community collage.
@fluffy @Jazzy_Butts Actually you have the right as a German Citizen to be assigned an affordable home. If you can't pay it, the state pays for it.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/wohnberechtigungsschein-wbs-erez-agam
damn why is everything in the usa so busted and broken ...
@Jazzy_Butts @mario @Jazzy_Butts @fluffy okay but do White non migrant Germans get that? If so pretty great
@D-Droid @Jazzy_Butts @fluffy everybody with a german citizenship gets that, it's just like the right to vote
@Jazzy_Butts @fluffy @mario

I'm no fan of religion, but the religious organizations in my community do much more for the homeless than the bureaucracy in place.


When I had 3 nights of rough sleeping (in between flats, with a broken home), I had an Islamic group bring me some soup, and the next night, they'd told some Catholics to check up on me.

Charity does seem to prosper with religion

@lunarised @mario @fluffy Yes and pushers give free drugs to first time users, it's not because the pushers are nice guys, it's self interest, they're trying to convert you, a footsoldier in the army of god is more valuable to them than 100 soups.

@lunarised @mario @fluffy I admit these may have been nice people, but don't think you can use this example to convince me that Islam and Christianity are good groups.

@Jazzy_Butts @mario @fluffy

If they're feeding people for the chance of a conversion, then that's fine. I'd happily listen to the deeds of Mohammed for a bowl of stew.

If that's what separates life and death, I don't care if there are alternative motives.

@lunarised @mario @fluffy Fair enough, desperate times, I would likely do the same, though at the moment I can't say I would, and so I say again I would not choose to gather with believers, because I have gathered with believers before, and they turned evil when I asked questions.

if it happens so consistently then have you considered... just not asking such questions?

@fluffy @mario @lunarised I am a free individual and I would rather use my free agency to not associate with abusers rather than attempt to please them, like a cock suckling whore.

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