@matrix turns out when you build a culture around extreme selfishness and narcissism coupled with widespread poverty and lack of social and economic mobility, people don't behave well

@animeirl Except US has one of the most richest poor people.
Poverty doesn't cause crime, but crime does cause poverty.
And if it was selfishness and narcissism, just letting them do it isn't going to help anything.

@matrix Poverty absolutely does cause crime. Impoverished people end up living in poorer, crime ridden neighborhoods, more exposed to crime, more likely to get involved, it's a self-reinforcing cycle that never ends due to the incredibly low socioeconomic mobility in the USA.
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@animeirl @matrix violent crime and poverty are mainly linked to disparity and so if there's no disparity there's no crime, it's not just being poor it's being poor right next to people who are rich and being very pissed off about that. It's like the monkeys and the grapes and cucumbers, a monkey will accept a cucumber as payment for a task in a cage next to another monkey who's accepting a cucumber as payment for a task, but as soon as one monkey receives a grape the other monkey will no longer accept its cucumber as payment it will freak the fuck out and refuse, it'll throw the cucumber back, it'll say fuck you because it's not fair.

And the US has so many people in prison because they arrest people for drug crimes on an unprecedented scale although that's been kind of slowing down because the dumb fucks have realized that they were being retarded.

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