When people call gaza getting roflstomped for what hamas did, hamas who they support, a genocide, I don't think they understand what a genocide is. Blowing up some buildings and burying suspected fighters is not a genocide even if it might be a warcrime. All gaza has to do is surrender, there are and have always been arabs in israel and they get along fine, gaza and hamas are assholes. Not a genocide. Fuck you.

@Jazzy_Butts 28k civilian fatalities and 2k possible fighter fatalities doesn't ring alarm bells in your mind? Glad you aren't in any positions of power :/

@ROYALTY @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business I haven't bothered looking at the numbers, but I blame every one of those deaths on Hamas.

@Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY @Jazzy_Butts well do research then because this issue and the mass displacement and genocide of palestinian arabs dates back much MUCH farther than october 7, 2023 and while i don't directly support hamas they're literally the closest thing to any kind of liberation force palestine has

for future reference, if you wanna talk about issues like these *and be taken seriously* then look at some numbers and, most especially, history. israel had already occupied way more land than just what palestine was as far back as the 40s, 50s, and 60s when they occupied parts of syria (which they still claim), and egypt (the sinai peninsula was returned after years of occupation)

these are delicate matters with decades (and in the case of the levant in general, centuries and millenia) of complex history and boiling it down simply to "israel attacking gaza because of hamas" is, quite frankly, pure ignorance on your behalf.

@pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business @ROYALTY Ok sorry I picked the side that doesn't want to throw me off a roof.

@Jazzy_Butts @Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY both sides would do so in a heartbeat, actually

@pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY I guess they must be keeping all those Israeli pride parade massacres secret because Israel looks like the only middle eastern country where people are allowed to be fucking gay.

@Jazzy_Butts @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts irrelevant, nobody is telling you to support hamas. What we're trying to tell you is that support for the past and current Israeli régimes isnt compatible with any sort of humanitarian or anti colonialist theory. But if you want support a gay accepting oppressive state, that on you. Just know that this same disregard and blind support is what lead up to the genocides of the 20th century.

@ROYALTY @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business Sorry hamas fa and fo, if israel had done the inverse and parachuted rapists into gaza and gang raped children in the streets and hamas blew the fuck out of Israel and killed everyone I'd be on their side. None of you are going to fucking convince me. This is not about groups, I am opposed to rapist pigs who proudly display their barbarism.

@Jazzy_Butts @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts that's the thing, Israeli soldiers have done such things before. On parachutes? No, but over time in an increasingly horrific manner.

https://www.berghahnjournals.com/view/journals/conflict-and-society/9/1/arcs090105.xml (link on how widespread rape is perpetrated by the IDF)

@ROYALTY @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business I am aware all state military forces use rape. I oppose them for that. There are degrees of threat though, and in my opinion Islamic extremism is the greater threat.

@Jazzy_Butts @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts

Modern Islamic extremism is largely a problem perpetrated by American and European influences during the mid-late 20th century. Are you willing to acknowledge that?

@ROYALTY @Jazzy_Butts @Jazzy_Butts i wanted to make this point but was too pissed to, the west is completely unwilling to acknowledge its continued role in the mass destabilization of the arab world

@pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business @ROYALTY I agree with that, see you might think I like the west, I do not like the west. I just don't dislike it as much as I dislike the middle eastern culture.