@Sp I was referring to hierarchical structures when I said Top Down Ruling, in perfect communalism, or communism if you will, there would be no rulers, everyone would live in an anarchic state of voluntary cooperation
@Sp Holy shit, I know what the us is capable of so this documentary doesn't seem like pure propaganda to me, but I don't believe that communist countries are heavenly paradises either. Communism is better in theory if you want cooperation, and since we are a cooperative species it's the most logical. We are not a hive of ants or a colony of bees, we are human beings, top down ruling where a few fat queens get fed by brainwashed workers is inhuman, and so is not suitable for humans.
@Sp Wow making people stay when they don't want to is kidnapping. At least the government gave that one Gonzalez kid back, he didn't look happy about it though, but it could have been his adoptive parents scaring him by telling him things.
@coolboymew Art on the wall. This is a classy person.
@Sp So why do people still flee? People leave cuba, are they insane? Are they sick and mad so they leave such good people and life behind?
@Sp That's cool, here it's impossible to fire a teacher, there's even been cases where teachers had sex a student (and you know how people are about that, even if consensual) and all the school could do was put them on paid leave. They get to retire and have paid leave.
@Sp I'd disagree, the powers that be feel that children must be dominated, with force, same as the police mentality that mentality goes all the way up, discussions are not how our overseers do things, they say to do something and an overseen is expected to so it, if they do not, they are punished.
Line up. "No". Punishment.
Stand up for the pledge of allegiance. "No". Punishment.
Etc.
@Sp I think everyone does it not because of capitalism or muslims, humans are apes, apes are very old, apes use torture, we use torture, simple as. Not saying torture is moral, but it is justified, and it's to do with our brains being big enough to understand that what would hurt us, would hurt another, and what feels good for us, the opposite of that would probably feel bad, we as a species use this to enforce rules. Putting children in school and instilling terror in them is a form of psychological torture, to elicit behavior. Instilling terror in the mentally ill, people who are harmless and babble, is torture. All human societies use torture.
@EscBoy That's the only valid reason to oppose brutal punishments, to which I say these brutal punishments should not be given lightly, if there's any kind of doubt, it can't be allowed. BUT any time someone is reported or suspended, they should be watched, and I'm talking 24/7, and if, IF they ever do anything that victimizes someone egregiously they'll be grabbed.
@Sp Ah, well he got shot, so, lot of good it did him. "Hey guys let's never kill anyone no matter how bad they are!"
"No" *bang*
I have no idea why he got killed, but he did. Also I heard that ghandi technically killed a bunch of people who died in riots he sparked.
@Sp I'm sure cuba and the dprk used torture, every group uses torture and killing to enforce rules
@Sp True, I mean in an ideal fantasy I would like these very bad, smug, arrogant, selfish people, who love hurting others, punching babies makes them smile, biting kittens heads off brings them joy, this type of person should be made to feel pain beyond pain, for the good of my own sanity
@Sp Hindu kills evil ones? Or hindu collaborates with evil ones?
@Sp Good point but NO, the RICH are the ONES WITHHOLDING FOOD, FORCING PEOPLE TO STEAL, IT IS THEM WHO ARE IN THE WRONG
I hate christian forgiveness, oh "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"? more like an eye for an eye keeps the world CLEANSED OF EVIL, YOU EVIL WORSHIPING SACKS OF SHIT, IF EVIL WENT AWAY YOU FUCKS WOULD BE OUT OF A JOB, YOU COLLABORATE WITH EVIL YOU BASTARDS AND YOU ALWAYS HAVE!
I wish all punishments for victim crimes were BRUTAL and PUBLIC, SAVAGE, UNTHINKABLE, these should be the penalties for victimization. SURGERIES!
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