Getting right wingers to debate the age of consent is a psyop and a gayop so of course right wingers trip over themselves to be the first to fall for it.
@sickburnbro @borzoi
Hey... I just love learning different opinions, as well as learning to express mine. But this question is one huge emotional minefield.
@sickburnbro @borzoi
If your anwser to this obvious question is "cuz they pedos", then I guess I have nothing to learn from you on this topic.
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@MechaSilvio @borzoi @sickburnbro
Oh no... There are girls with bad parents who ruined their life. Please government Stop me from being stupid. 
@sickburnbro @borzoi @MechaSilvio
Extremelly ill-defined queation
What is a society? Immagine one person. Is he in a society? no.
Add another person. both hate eachother, so they move away from each other. Are they in society? no.
If they like each other, they can start communicating, hunting together etc. Both are gaining benefit from their interactions.
Society was created. Now, was there a purpose to this? That would be extremely utilitarian look at 2 people enjoying each others presence and I refuse this framing.
@sickburnbro @borzoi @MechaSilvio
Now that is a great jump in logic.
Yes, I live in a society 
so?
@sickburnbro @borzoi @MechaSilvio
Extremelly ill-defined queation
What is a society? Immagine one person. Is he in a society? no.
Add another person. both hate eachother, so they move away from each other. Are they in society? no.
If they like each other, they can start communicating, hunting together etc. Both are gaining benefit from their interactions.
Society was created. Now, was there a purpose to this? That would be extremely utilitarian look at 2 people enjoying each others presence and I refuse this framing.
To illustrate with something concrete:
Where i live, packs of children begging for candy on halloween are now routinely escorted by an adult.
Ten years ago that seemed nuts.
The extend to which you expect your neighbor to look out for your children too, is that too abstract for you?
@mute_city
Well, trust is hardly a measurable unit, so yes, trust in people in your area is an abstract concept.
The example you used on the other hand is a measuraple phenomenon. Why is the concept of abstraction important to this debate?
> Why is the concept of abstraction important to this debate?
Because of the style of your argumentation.
Example :
> Well, trust is hardly a measurable unit
And the rest of it, that looks like "things that can not be modeled in almost algebraic ways are too vague to consider". I understand this, i'm a sperg myself. :)
And i should have said: "too vague" - my bad.
We don't have a rigorous - and complete enough to be useful - model of human social dynamics yet.
And we don't have the luxury to defer decisions until one emerges.
Thus i would argue:
the heueristic brought further up the thread of "what would you want if it was YOUR daughter" is a good one.