It’s amazing how many people are brainwashed into thinking anything to help improve their country is considered communism :flan_laugh:

@stux
Lower taxes -> improve country. Not communism

Less government overreach -> improve country. Not communism

No censorship -> improve country. Not communism

I don't see your point :ablobdevil:

@LukeAlmighty @stux Maybe if you're not being communist you're not improving your country? 🤷🏾‍♂️ The OP does make more sense when you flip the order

@realcaseyrollins @stux
Well, no. There are next to none commie policies that lead to a better country.

@LukeAlmighty @stux Well it depends. Communism and Socialism don't scale well, which means it can work for smaller countries like the Netherlands, in moderate amounts.

Of course a private sector is necessary but a communist or socialist public sector can work in a small society.
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@realcaseyrollins @stux
I agree with you there. Communism does not scale qell, but it can be maintained in the scale of..... FAMILY.

Maybe close friends, and potentially even a small village (30 people would be my theoretical cutting point). Anything beyond that becomes an arms race in stealing from the productive few.

@realcaseyrollins @stux
In family, you are taking from people you know and care about. Their suffering is known to you and they can be reasoned with. Problem with redistribution through government becomes unbearable the moment you do not see the effect of money being taken away for your benefit.

@LukeAlmighty @stux But some socialized programs can work in small governments right? Does it not work in #Denmark?

@realcaseyrollins @stux
Not sure if you expect me to go through the exact numbers, but no.

Most people, when they are offered free money for "not asking where it came from", they will take it.

Aditionally, money given by government is not money generated by the government. It is not even money taken from the rich. But is is amount of money that the guy who knows how to be productive cannot spend on generating even more value for people around him.

So I see no reason, why your example of a country should be different. I live in a small country too BTW, and there are groups of people who instead of working, know about every single social program, and how to fill applications, in order to get the most...
They simply do not care, because they do not see the work on the other side of their paycheck.

@realcaseyrollins @stux
btw, this rends me of an old meme I saw ages ago.

In here, I totally agree with Tony, but the comparassion is obvious. I seriously do not see almost any case of wellfare being used to help people who need it, while taxes hurt so many people who do not deserve it.

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