@matrix It's true though.
@Mac_CZ @matrix
It definitelly is not correct.
As a libertarian, I do believe, that the system is intended to serve the role of creating an environment, where people can enjoy their freedoms in relative safety.
I believe rveryone has a right to LEAVE their country. Absolutelly. But we have no duty to accept muslims, that will cause the entire society to collapse.
@Mac_CZ @matrix
When I think about it, that is the same reason I consider prison to be inhumane, since it forces you to live under rules where you have no rights.
It would be better, if state offered an alternative punishment, that would still left you freedom to resume life/leave the country. (For instance slashes with whip)
@LukeAlmighty @matrix And how can you not accept somebody? If I buy or rent a house somewhere, I want to live there. Nobody has the right to tell me if I can buy a house and move into my house. You feel entitled to tell me who I'm allowed to sell my house to or if I can buy one?
@LukeAlmighty @Mac_CZ @matrix So you're saying restricting freedom is alright here. How do you disagree? You can't be pro-freedom and anti-immigration, and that's why you should be anti-pro-freedom
@applejack @Mac_CZ @matrix
Oh yes... every belief is binary set on the most unreasonable extremes...
Now, that the strawman is out of the way, what stance do you disagree with? The stance, that a person should have the right to leave the country no matter what the government thinks, or the stance that a government should have right to refuse culturally incompatible people from comming in?
@applejack @Mac_CZ @matrix
>rights don't exist
They do, if you define them based on consequences of breaking said rights. Although yes, the common definition of rights is a hippie shit.
>binary rules
That is something I don't believe in, since I define my criteria. Absolute freedom is a dumb criteria. But I do believe, that some rules guarded by the government can lead to more freedoms then if these rules were not guarded.
It is a balancing act, that leads on both sides to no real choice being left if a man wants to survive.
@LukeAlmighty @Mac_CZ @matrix No, it's all just "because I say so" shit
@applejack @Mac_CZ @matrix
I am starting to see why everyone hates libertarians.
@LukeAlmighty @Mac_CZ @matrix
>every belief is binary set on the most unreasonable extremes
Uh, yeah. Duh. Something is either true or it isn't. If you arbitrarily decide to follow some principle and "you should allow X and Y because I think freedom good" you can't make arbitrary exceptions when you want
>what stance do you disagree with
Rights don't exist. They're not real, obviously. Don't slave over things that are inside your head. If it's better to restrict someone's freedom, do it. Overall freedom is good, but only in service to an actually real goal with things that actually exist