@matrix >tell libertarian that allowing immigration can change the fundamentals of the society making libertarianism viable
Now you are in a race realism/HBD debate. If you insist on uncomfortable truths, now you're a Nazi; get expelled from the group. Possibly proving the effectiveness of keeping close borders, albeit ironically.
@rasterman@matrix Don't worry, we know. Believing, that it is better to have more freedoms then less does not mean, that we don't know some liberties are just too destructive.
(and yeah, there are always idiots in every ideology. )