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@LukeAlmighty @mangeurdenuage @coolboymew @harblinger I know this is a meme, but the idea that there are variances in ability therefore people with low ability should just suffer is incredibly stupid.
@Hyolobrika @LukeAlmighty @coolboymew @mangeurdenuage there's a lot of shoulds that would make an ideal world, nice to think about sometimes
@harblinger @LukeAlmighty @coolboymew @mangeurdenuage How on Earth is that a should that would make an ideal world? Are we communicating effectively?

@Hyolobrika @LukeAlmighty @coolboymew @mangeurdenuage

I guess I’ll go verbose

people with low ability should just suffer is incredibly stupid.

I was pointing out that particular use of should in your sentence. It’s not that they should, it’s just that they do. Idealists like to imagine a different use of should like: “People of high ability should forgo their own pleasure to lift those of low ability out of suffering”

Idealist thoughts like that are nice thoughts, but second order effects can bring about much more total suffering (think about the theory of evolution, if low ability offspring were lifted up and high ability offspring were suppressed, then as a total the species would suffer and become lower ability over time)

Does that communicate more effectively?

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> “People of high ability should forgo their own pleasure to lift those of low ability out of suffering”
That's not really what I intended to say.
The meme implied that people with low intelligence shouldn't use computers because computers, OSs and UIs made for them are dumbed down. I'm saying that's a fallacy because high-intelligence people can always use OSs etc that supposedly better cater to their intelligence.

@Hyolobrika @mangeurdenuage @coolboymew @harblinger
I disagree immensely.
The primary way of ensuring stability of OS from user error is limiting a total options available to a user.

And if the option is not present, noone can use it, therefore smart people suffer for the dumb.

@LukeAlmighty @mangeurdenuage @coolboymew @harblinger That doesn't make any sense. There are lots of OSs. Some can be for smart people, others for dumb people.
What have you got against competition?
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@Hyolobrika @mangeurdenuage @harblinger @coolboymew
Not sure how saying "the collective is retarded" is collectivist, but ok, I guess I'm not a full capitalist.

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@LukeAlmighty @mangeurdenuage @harblinger @coolboymew You're promoting a policy that affects everyone because otherwise a specific group of people (which you just so happen to include yourself in, most probably) will be mildly negatively affected otherwise, are you not?
That's collectivism.

@Hyolobrika @mangeurdenuage @harblinger @coolboymew
No, I said, that people should try to avoid using technologies, that can ruin their lives, while not being able to identify or minimalize the dangers connected to it's use.

That was your original point wasn't it? That stupid people shouln't suffer restrictions on computers?

@Hyolobrika @mangeurdenuage @harblinger @coolboymew
I used an example, where I believed, that you would understand the concept of self harm by dumb people using a tool too advanced for them.

But I don't believe in most of government limitations. Guns included. Let the dumb people off themselves. A loving father will teach his 6YO all the gun safety rules, and a gun is the coolest toy any kid can wish for.

Same rules aply to college debt, or single mothers. These people should have known better at that point.

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