@milk
I believe, that porn is necessary, considering amount of women, who decide to go the way of single mom. Men need a 3rd choice between becoming slave to an immoral being, and going insane.
But I see, why the ammount of horrible arguments in the field make it seem, like porn is source of all evil these days.
> Counterpoint, porn is not necessary and was banned for a majority of human history.
Not relevant, I live today, in the age of birth control, high education, affirmative action and divorce laws. History does not apply.
> Also, a lot of porn is made through sex trafficking, coercion via drugs, and other nefarious methods.
Why did you put legal and illegal into a single argument? Almost, as if you didn't believe the validity of the strong argument (trafficking), so you jumped back on provable yet toothless (drugs).
> Remember the PornHub crackdown not too long ago? It was because they were hosting minors getting raped.
So is fucking Facebook. Humans do crime. Not an argument.
> The pornography of today is so prevalent you can see it by mistake if the search filters didn't catch that site.
That is an actual problem. I would suggest to focus on grooming in schools first, but point taken.
> Also, it looks like scenarios get pumped into the machine. How much incest porn is there? Do you tell yourself that it's actors and not how fucked up that scenario is?
I seriously couldn't care less about the degeneracy levels. I have more respect fot guro fan then a single mother simp.
Thanks for the response, but I am trying to think of solutions for the society as it is. To say "but crimes happen" or "but I can imagine an utopia" does not help me improve my life.
@LukeAlmighty @DuckKingLoow @milk >birth control, high education, affirmative action and divorce laws
Things weren't like this bad before porn. Everyone one of these is a plank in the same jewish fertility reduction scheme, including porn
There's no one of them that happens to be good
>legal and illegal
Illegal drug addictions are a big thing in the porn industry, as is trafficking, as is coercion
You didn't even address his point. Really shows the validity in yours
>So is fucking Facebook
Facebook does not profit from human trafficking, neither are you actually addressing the point. Smutpeddlers make money by taking young girls and abusing them to lure men in and abuse them.
It is a complete negative that gains nobody but the smuttpeddlers. It has no sane reason to be allowed to exist. The people running it actively and knowingly benefit from abuse, they actively campaign "barely legal" girls and via Onlyfans
>That is an actual problem
The majority of kids are exposed to porn at 13. Every year it gets lower. Every year there's more fetish, racial abuse, transfetishism, and other disgusting garbage. It's a GIANT problem
Do you not think this has something to do with the whole tranny thing? Trannies are universally coomers. They coom until their brains get fried, novelty seeking kicks in, they get worse and worse fetishes, and then they cut their dick off
>I seriously couldn't care less about the degeneracy levels
You don't live in a vacuum. Societal health affects you. These degeneracies normalise behaviours that affect you, that affect your kids. You do care
@applejack
Sorry for taking so long to respond, but I didn't want to go point by point, since I'm afraid we could get lost in semantics instead of meaning of an argument.
On one hand, yes. I am that apathetic. Once a woman is morally bancrupt enough, so she is willing to do drugs and porn, I seriously don't care how she ends up. You might call this unfair or immoral, but I cannot pretend to care about people who don't care about themselves.
On the other hand, don't think, that I don't see the societal decay. Of course I do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-DZbKZEXSs
Here is a trannie openly debating, that raping someone should not be dangerous for the rapist... obviously 
. There is no reason even speculating about moral character of such person, and that living on the same planet as them is not safe. And I can even see porn helping to push someone over that line.
My original point wasn't meant to be, that porn is morally white. But, that the entire society is collapsing based on the points, that I pointed above, and when I see many nationalists ignore all of them, and just blame it on porn, it frustrates me to no end. And I still DO believe, that if the problems I mentioned got more focus, the demand for porn would plummet.
