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I saw a cute girl today.
I wanted to say something smart to start conversation.
Computers are ruining everything.
She immediatelly says "no they're not" even before I can start my explanation. It's obvious she doesn't care.
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1 hour later, she cannot sell me a product, because a computer doesn't allow it.

@LukeAlmighty >Computers are ruining everything.
breh, women don't give a shit about that

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The joke was the last part, but suuure. I will never joke about things that do fit in context.

@LukeAlmighty ok but computers are one of the best things to happen to women because it allows them to get a lot of attention

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But you know what? today is a national holiday of fucking democracy out all all the shit, so I have a bad mood anyway.

Please, tell me what fucking topics should I master in to have anything interesting to talk about with women.

@LukeAlmighty >Please, tell me what fucking topics should I master in to have anything interesting to talk about with women.
you're still thinking like a man. women want to bond and relate to another person, not have technical discussions lol

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> you're still thinking like a man.
Oh, who would have thought : o

@LukeAlmighty being able to relate to other people is extremely important and if you want to be successful with women you need to learn what motivates a woman

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But yeah. I am autistic, and I know I might sound like a troll.

But how am I supposed to relate, when I cannot even ask on an opinion on ANY interesting subject? Is that even "relating" really?

@LukeAlmighty talking about subjects is too impersonal, you want to learn about the person. i.e. instead of "what does your job entail?" better questions are ones that have to do with feelings or life stories or people in their life, i.e "do you like the people you work with?" "how did you end up here?" "what are you passionate about" etc. this doesn't just apply to women either. learning how to relate is an experience thing. if you are autistic then you need to spend a lot of time doing empathy training. you have to spend a lot of time imaging yourself in their shoes, and trying to understand their motivations (which will always be different from yours).
@LukeAlmighty the autism thing I think is a gigantic cope/crutch. psychopaths and malignant narcissists have little to no empathy towards people but they can still logically suss out what their motivations are by figuring out the patterns and cause/effect of typical human behavior. unless you are so autistic that you are playing with choo choo trains all day I'd bet you could compensate it with practice

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I literally just asked you for advide on how to get to the "talk to" phase, and your response is "don't be a pussy, you're just pretending to be retarded"

Well, thanks for nothing I guess. At least I know what you mean by "empathy" now.

@LukeAlmighty >and your response is "don't be a pussy, you're just pretending to be retarded"
no, I gave you advice, and then what I said was "you're being lazy and using autism as a crutch". I never said you're pretending to be "retarded" nor did I call you that.
@LukeAlmighty @LukeAlmighty @e there is no need to try to be smart. most of them are too stupid to contribute to an intelligent conversion. the best opener isnt some clever witticism or cheesy pick up line. just say "hi" and ask relevant, low stakes, small talk questions. if youre at a bar ask what she likes to drink, if youre at a bookstore ask what she likes to read. try to find a similarity you can share. if, through some cosmically lucky coincidence, you share a passion for something then you can try to dive deep into an intelligent conversation about that one specific thing. yes its ok to talk about the weather. if you try talking about the weather and she rolls her eyes that thats too petty insignificant small talk then try to uno reverso her with something deep like asking what she thinks happens after you die.
try to avoid politics

@LukeAlmighty yeah bringing up computers causing problems immediately isn't the best way to strike conversation with a rando.

It's better to ask questions based on things you might notice about them that they can then ask you about. Ask about their job and what they like or dislike about it, you'll likely immediately find things to relate with and maybe crack a joke about. If they have a tattoo you can ask what the story behind it is and go from there. Something I've noticed a lot is that people ask where I'm from, and then I ask them, and we compare the places we live and why we like them or what brought us there. As cliche as it sounds, talking about the weather isn't that bad as long as you can add something to it or crack a joke about it instead of just a plain observation (add some personality). If it's the weekend, asking if they have any plans and then reacting to whatever they say positively is good. Even if they just say "ah I'm just working" you can still say it's good to keep busy, but that it's good to get some rest too.

Over everything, just keep the conversation positive. You don't want to dwell on anything negative and it definitely shouldn't be the conversation starter. More serious or theoretical/existential topics can happen later, and happen naturally.

The last girlfriend I had, I started talking to about the musicians on stage at an open mic. Then I got to ask what her favorite was and why, and since I like music a lot we could go back and forth on it. That ended up going toward a song she heard in a penguin documentary and I found out she liked penguins, so on our first date I gave her a little penguin plush. The only time we got into more serious talks was when it was just the two of us alone, driving at night from somewhere or sitting at a fire when the mood and timing was right.

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