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BTW, if your kid is retarded, PLEASE !!!! For the love of GOD!!!

Do not make it official. If you do, he might be thrown to a retard class. Let him go through a normal education, he can do it.

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@Jens_Rasmussen
Sure...
But my point is, that most doctors have no idea how to evaluate it.

I was outright told, that I will be happy, if I pass the retard school. Because even experts do see autism as an incurable brain rot that makes you retarded, instead of "oh, he has slightly different motivational framework".

I know that in Italy there's like a competition to get kids go through facilitated programs in elementary school. Parents do whatever they can to get them diagnosed with dyslexia or dyscalulia. Reversed world.
@RikaDerufu @LukeAlmighty Kids get advantages if they have some sort of disability on paper. More time with teachers, more time for exams and more lenient teaching environment.

@Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu
They can get "advantages", but are you sure you want them on the primary school level?

In the primary school, I had to demand teachers to rate me as any normal student.

It was only in high school finals, when I went to get the paper, to get an easier job getting accepted to a university, but before that, all the better grading would do would be to give me false information about ways in which I'm bad compared to others.

Not to mention again.... a risk of a retard class. Not worth it.

@Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu
So, I was the worst guy in grammar in the entire class... Big fucking deal :D

@LukeAlmighty @RikaDerufu The humiliation one might feel and poor social connections you can make, when surrounded by "retards", are enough to make normal children and youths not want it. If someone is too "special" to feel humiliation and make social connections, then they can go for the special schools all they want.

Out in the adult world, of jobs and productivity, there's not really any programs to make room for the "retarded" to have a position in line with everyone else. Some liberal tendencies are trying to change that in the name of equity, but I think that's doomed to fail eventually.

@Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu
> If someone is too "special" to feel humiliation

Yeah, but here you're talking about a vegetable levels of special.

@Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu
Nah, An inability to feel emotions is a fucking myth. (Or an exception of some insane level)

@LukeAlmighty @RikaDerufu It's not that the autists in question don't feel emotions, they just don't understand social ques enough to know that by being labeled "special" is a cause for ridicule.
@Jens_Rasmussen @LukeAlmighty @RikaDerufu We spoke once b4 about what will happen to spastics in the Dannostate. I shall give them their last and most enjoyable for me train ride

@Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu
So, I will repeat.

That state is extremely more rare then you would believe. You might not see it like that, since you expect a different reaction, but the feelings are still there.

@LukeAlmighty @RikaDerufu I know what I've seen or heard.
Children and youths who were placed in special classes who benefitted from it but might as well be places in normal ones, those who needed the special classes if they were to get anywhere near passable grades, and those who were placed in regular classes that might as well have been placed in special classes.

@Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu
So, you do believe, that people actually did benefit from the special class?

@LukeAlmighty @RikaDerufu Compared to normal classes they certainly learned more, yes.

Whether they end up being turned into something resembling a normal person in terms of being cogs in society, I don't know.

@Jens_Rasmussen @LukeAlmighty @RikaDerufu when i was a kid, they had a program where if you were smart enough you would get extra attention with extra challenges. i had that for language arts, always books with higher reading levels and spelling with harder words.

@LukeAlmighty yeah if my kid ends up a little bit autistic i've always thought i'll try to treat him as normal as possible. after seeing how my aunt and uncle raised my autistic cousin, i think part of the reason why he ended up the way he did was because they basically just enabled his autism and used it as an excuse at every turn.

obviously there are some learning differences and such, but i think it is still something that can be overcome with enough attention paid.

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