@icedquinn
That's like saying, that you clowned gun with some "physics" thing.

@LukeAlmighty anyone could build a gun, physics is ruined now

@icedquinn
If you're too drunk to understand comperassions, then you should go sleep.

@LukeAlmighty when they reduced it to a pseudoscientific particle they already opened the door to grafting shenanigans. this has always been true in scifi.

@NEETzsche
The force was in all living creatures. It is part of the universe itself, terefore, it does affect the universe as a whole.

But, most people don't know about it. They don't feel the force, since they are missing the talent. (In EP.1 it's revieled, that this talent can be measured. That pissed of some @icedquinn , but didn't change the fact.)

[ALSO, NOONE SAID THE MIDICHLORIANS CAUSE THE MANIPULATION, ONLY, THAT THERE IS A DIRECT CORELATION]

So, if you are 1/ 1 000 000 people born with some sensitivity, you will have a better luck, since some kind of your mind can feel it, but that is not enough to be a jedi. It just makes you a character like Han Solo, who "just happen to" be impossibly talented.

But, if you are 1/ 1 000 000 000, you can be trained to feel the force consciously. And, after several years, you can start affecting the world around you.

So, that are the rules as far as I understand them. It takes decades to be a Jedi, who can actually do the things we see in the movies.... Until Disney bought the series, and made it so, that untrained person can do whatever the fuck they want if they are sensitive.

And now, they are making the sensitivity optional too, because why the fuck no?

@NEETzsche @icedquinn
To be a light side user means to supress your ego to such an extent, that you start hearing the will of the universe, and you can then cooperate with it. This makes you a conduit that heals it's environment and helps the life grow...

On the other hand, if you become so focused on yourself, your ego can become a wound in a force. Your existence as a sith is literally bending the will of the force and killing all of your surroundings and yourself.

Sith are literal cancer to the life itself.

This is the difference between the jedi and sith. Also something, that literally none of the new "fans" care about

@LukeAlmighty @icedquinn Okay this makes sense. It reminds me of Guild Navigators in Dune, or Psykers in 40k. The aptitude is very rare and even if you have it it still requires tons of training and effort.

I thought they already did this. I recall there was a huge outrage about how Luke Skywalker had to exert all this effort to get his powers, and then some bitch showed up and got all of his powers immediately because girl power.

This sort of thing has had me divest from every major franchise that I was interested in, often for many years. So I thought this was already done deal with Star Wars.

@NEETzsche @LukeAlmighty i thought they offscreen handwaved the training for plot girl in rogue one.

idk i don't really care about this series lol. and if i had, i'd have considered it dead when disney bought it

there are some dumb boomery producers that can't understand that idolatry doesn't work like IP and can't be bundled and redistributed at will. you can buy all the properties and hire fleets of lawyers but nobody is going to love the random you replaced harrison ford with.

spoony had the best description of this. basically, "they tried to [new wrestler] equals sign hulk hogan"

@NEETzsche @LukeAlmighty i mention this because the 'girl power' actress you're talking about is a manifestation of disney's desire to repackage a character with a cult history on to someone else and it doesn't work. they don't want to build a new person up, the just want you to equals sign anakin skywalker and carry on.

you can maybe do that if you just get another guy to play the old one. the new guy has to actually be good at the job, but it can work. nick fury isn't supposed to be black but samuel jackson is boss enough that nobody cares. he ain't gotta explain shit. but he would be good as anyone, whereas they want the merch and popularity to transfer on to the nobody.

@NEETzsche @icedquinn
Well, they did skip the training once because of girl power in EP 7, but that was for an artificially created being with super-aptitude, and they also added an excuse. (although, a horrible one)

But in this case, Ahsoka just said, that the aptitude doesn't matter.... And that is kinda the last step to "anyone can be a jedi any time, nothing required"

Commies love to do this sort of thing. They love to erode definitions so that nothing means anything and everything is just a bunch of woo and bullshit. It has a number of purposes, but one of these purposes is entryism; make the special title someone might hold less meaningful by lowering standards. Mommy wow, I’m a jedi now!

@NEETzsche @icedquinn
Yeah...
I am almost happy I didn't finish the university, just because I see, how fast is the title losing it's prestiege.

@LukeAlmighty @icedquinn I've seen this gradual process of shitting up franchises with really great premises and execution. Great reputations. Destroying IPs with retarded leftoid bullshit. So I feel your pain.

That being said, I didn't go through it with Star Wars because, like I said, I never really got into it in the first place. The big ones I watched get corrupted were World of Darkness and Magic: the Gathering

@NEETzsche @icedquinn
Yeah, I played one game from the world of darkness, but from the little I've heard about the new releases of the franchise, it got fucked up HARD :D

@LukeAlmighty The WoD video games were downstream of the TTRPGs, which is where all the really cool parts of it went down. The video game is cheap by comparison. But they fucked the TTRPGs up too. Completely fucked them up. They did it to such an extent that it's like satire of leftists. It's basically Poe's law in action.

@icedquinn

@NEETzsche @LukeAlmighty
> gay muslim anarch

anarchs be a pretty googly faction.

t. camarilla, because the masquerade kinda important

@NEETzsche @icedquinn @LukeAlmighty the world truly ended in 2004.

@8b928bf75edb4ddffe2800557ffe7e5e2b07c5d5102f97d1955f921585938201
Nah, I don't have strong feelings towards Star Wars anymore.

Only nostalgia for what once used to be a great franchise.

@beardalaxy
Yeah, I'm not watching it either, but the short clips that got to me are.... all beyond the worst expectations.

@LukeAlmighty i haven't seen anything from star wars since the clone wars anime ended lol. unless you count E;R's videos xD

@beardalaxy
I had a bit more of a loajality, but it kinda broke me, when they released Bad batch (an actually good show), but I just didn't have the strength to continue watching it.