i'm beginning to hate hollow knight for the same reason i hate soulslike games.

you spend 30 minutes getting to a boss, die because you don't know its extremely intricate attack patterns, then you have to go back to said boss and hope you don't die along the way to some stupid bullshit otherwise you quite literally lost all of your progress other than map progression. it's clunky too, how tf do you have a game feel like this when megaman x did it 10x better 25 years ago? i have that problem with soulslikes too, they all feel like complete garbage to play and i get that it's "by design" but it makes it really hard for me to enjoy.

the fact that i enjoyed the gameplay of a fucking porn game more than this is ridiculous. when you die in rogue lites at least you keep all of your currency even if the map resets and you go into the next run with everything being fresh. it's like hollow knight combines the worst parts of metroidvanias and soulslikes together.

the music and atmosphere are great, i'll give it that. they really are great. it's just that, if the gameplay sucks, why tf am i playing it? this is REALLY not the game for me. i'm going to really keep trying to push through it but man, i'm thinking i'd rather play so many different games right about now.

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I gave up on Elden ring because of Emo dog, not because it was hard... but because you had a several minutes long run to him...

Nearly no enemies, but the run was so bad....

@LukeAlmighty i tried playing bloodborne when it first came out. i really like the setting and all that jazz. spent like 2 hours or something going through the entirety of the unlocked map before i found out where the first boss was, got destroyed by him because i had no more blood vials or whatever, and then put the game down forever. i don't want to play a game that feels like a slog, i just don't.

@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty reminds me of the first and only time I tried dark souls 1 where I beat the first (not tutorial) boss by accident first try, because the stupid fucker jumped off of the bridge thing

@lolicon @LukeAlmighty oh yeah lol, my roommate and i were playing it like ten years ago at this point, that happened and we were like wtf

@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty my sides were in orbit, but shorty after I got so bored of the repetitiveness of the game I uninstalled it

@lolicon @LukeAlmighty yeah the souls games are extremely slow paced with clunky movement and combat, and death is waaay too punishing imo. if the game were faster, harder, and had more frequent checkpoints i'd like it a lot more.

a lot of people default to the "git gud" thing but idk man, i don't think me being a bad gamer has much to do with it. i've beaten plenty of games i actually enjoy on their hardest difficulties. dark souls is just way too clunky and slow for me to enjoy, and that extends to the vast majority of games in that sub-genre.

i tend like difficult games that are super cracked out, like hotline miami or ghostrunner. devil may cry on harder difficulties is great, too.

@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty hotline miami was the shit, loved that game
>git gud
how about I just git a gud game instead

@lolicon @LukeAlmighty have you played otxo? It's on my backlog, looks crazy.

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