A video showing woman seconds before she died. No blood, but still tough to watch.
@matrix
Ok, here is another video.
It won't change minds, but it is still an interesting moment to think about just for the insane complexity.
On one hand, it completely disproves my assumption, while also PROVING the same assumption from a different way.
She seems to be a protester who is obstructing the road in this retarded way on purpose. While she is calm at the moment (EXTREMELY GOOD ON HER SIDE), she is putting pressure on the cops. Then, the second car appears, and she is forced to defend heresels in the 3 seconds I described before. And that is where I still keep my opinion, that she was in fact not given a human time to comply, before a "fight or flight" kicked in.
@Humpleupagus @matrix
Do you really want to measure time from the moment the cop shouted "get out of the car" and her death?
Because that is the compliance time I am talking about.
@Humpleupagus @matrix
Obviously, things do turn ugly fast, but please, don't tell me, that your instinct woudln't be to run, if out of nowhere, you saw a guy twice your size grab your car door, and another one shouting at you.
She was in the complete idle mode at the moment. That's the thing that is the most shocking to me.
@FreeinTX @Humpleupagus @matrix
> No. My first thought when an armed cop is yelling for me to get out of the car
Literally not the question I asked.
@Humpleupagus @matrix @FreeinTX
I get to ask any question I fucking want.
What's your favorite color btw?
@Humpleupagus @matrix @FreeinTX
Thank you.
My point was, that I don't believe she had time to recognize, that people shouting/opening doors were cops in the first place. And even worse, once you initiate physical contact, the reasoning abilities decline to 1/10 immediately. Therefore, they forced her to fight of flight by an insanely escalated aproach.
The fact of them being caps could not even cross her mind at that time.
@Humpleupagus @matrix @FreeinTX
Also, since you are an expert, what is the least serious interpretation of 3 separate cases of interfering with medical treatment?
I have already seen a case of "human traficking" that was in reality just a creep pretending to be retarded so someone changes his dipers, so I just wonder, what the legal extent of this charge is.
@Humpleupagus @matrix @FreeinTX
Since she was an insane activist, I can see that happening quite often.
Yes, exactly. 🍻 Narrowing down to the encounter itself, we can reasonably assume she knew she was obstructing federal enforcement. Why else park crossways on a road, smiling smug?
The officer's own phone footage shows the "wife" mocking the officer for taking note of her SUV's license plate, prodding whether he's "gonna came after [us]," then regaling her veteran status at him.
The idea that they didn't have time to respond should be dropped. They made the decision to insert themselves--with the purpose of obstruction--and then attempted to flee... through an officer. (lol)
It's tragic, it's dumb (a little funny), and it was entirely avoidable at least in initiation by her. Same as when a flaunting woman is raped and someone asks, "But where were you? What were you doing?" One's own intent isn't the only input toward consequence. One's physical presence (having been guided by that intent) certainly is an input toward consequence.
@Humpleupagus @matrix @FreeinTX
That's a huge fact of life 😮💨
I'm going to assume she didn't enter property to interfere. That would be weird. Most likely she was already in the property when treatment began.
Because she was charged with entering / remaining, it's not her own property.
If it's a property where treatment was being administered, and not her own, I'll assume it was a hospital, and she was not the patient.
Most likely she legally entered — she knew the patient, but was asked to leave after interfering with staff. Who the patient was is anyone's guess, kid, mom, girlfriend? Staff then called the police.