@MisterRogersSnapped @MK2boogaloo @matrix @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @colonelj @repent @adolf @verita84

Define "looked real"? Cause there are tests that can be done on the paper and ink to certify the time period, so you'll know it's not some recent scam someone is pulling.

It could still potentially be a century old prank, of Hitler's war buddies, making it seem like he lost his testicle, but the farther away you get, the least likely it is that someone would hold on to a document they faked for a stupid prank.

@alyx @MK2boogaloo @matrix @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @colonelj @repent @adolf @verita84 Okay then let's do those same tests on the Diaries of Anne Frank. In fact let's publish them unabridged and see what people think. We should probably test the handwriting in them against Otto Frank's as well.

While we are at it we could get into Helen Keller and what a fucking scam that was.

Or more recently Stephen Hawking. That was faked right before your eyes.

I don't really want to defend Hitler, but coming up with shit 80 years after the fact smacks of "Thomas Jefferson fucked his slaves!" (He didn't but his cousin did)

Truth is, you want those things to be true because the rulebook states you must humiliate your enemy. For the same reason the blood libels (which I don't believe in, by the by) worked for a millenia. Humans will believe anything if they want to.

@MisterRogersSnapped @MK2boogaloo @matrix @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @colonelj @repent @adolf @verita84

>Okay then let's do those same tests on the Diaries of Anne Frank
I don't have any issues with this.

I feel like I should know what you're referring to surrounding Helen Keller, but I don't. And I have no clue what you think was faked about Hawking. Any clarification on these two things would be appreciated.

@MisterRogersSnapped @MK2boogaloo @matrix @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @colonelj @repent @adolf @verita84

To clarify a bit, I know Helen Keller was blind and deaf. Don't know what you might mean by scam.

@alyx @MK2boogaloo @matrix @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @colonelj @repent @adolf @verita84

Lol here is where you try to expose what I have to say and shame me for it. I see you but I don't mind.

Helen Keller was deaf and blind. No one before or since with this affliction could ever understand or communicate complex ideas the way Helen Keller did. Because she didn't. All of her ideas and opinions magically mirrored the feminist views of her caretaker Anne Sullivan.

Stephen Hawking communicated rapidly by twitching a face muscle through a computer in a time period where that technology was what... only available to him? Also how long can a dude live with ALS? There is evidence that his colleagues and the government used him as a front facing sympathetic figure.

Blindness and deafness isn't a binary affliction.
Where is the claim that she was unable to hear or see at all?
@MisterRogersSnapped @alyx @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @colonelj @matrix @repent @verita84

@Christ @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @alyx @colonelj @matrix @repent @verita84 tell me it's real

https://youtu.be/8ch_H8pt9M8

@MisterRogersSnapped @MK2boogaloo @matrix @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @colonelj @repent @adolf @Christ @verita84

I believe it can be done, but what would normally take a child a few years to master by himself, it would basically take maybe even decades for someone like that. My blind guess is that at best she knew only a small number of words, and she had to practice long and hard to speak phrases for reporters.

@MisterRogersSnapped @MK2boogaloo @matrix @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @colonelj @repent @adolf @verita84

>All of her ideas and opinions magically mirrored the feminist views of her caretaker Anne Sullivan.
That's reasonable. I thought you were gonna say something like "she wasn't actually blind&deaf". If her caretaker was feminist or whatever, it makes sense that she'd mirror whatever education she received. Just like so many university students today get brainwashed in the most crazy ideologies.

>Stephen Hawking
Regarding his face blinking or muscle twitching or whatever it was interface, that was more recent indeed. Well into 2010s I think. Made by Intel IIRC. Don't know much about this one, I'm more familiar with his prior, finger-click interface. But I don't think they were that different in one crucial aspect: they were anything but rapid. From my understanding, any speech he made, was in no way "live". He prepared every single word, maybe even weeks in advance, and he'd just hit play when put on the scene. If someone made you think anything he said was "spontaneous" in any way, they basically lied to you.

As for "how long can a dude live with ALS", you'd have to ask his doctors. As far as I'm aware, his case is considered a miracle that they don't really understand yet.

>used him as a front facing sympathetic figure
This one I find hard to believe because interviews and speeches from him are pretty hard to come by, which is odd just going by the fact that he's been called the Albert Einstein of our generation. He's definitely an important figure, but if someone wanted to use him like that, they didn't manage to do it very well. They also chose a poor target, because it would be hard to parade him around to give talks and such, like they do with Greta Thumberg. I'd have an easier time believing this about Neil deGrasse Tyson.

Didn't mean this as a way to "expose" anything. Was legitimate curious, especially about Stephen Hawking, cause I've found him an interesting figure since I was a kid, and read a few books of his.

@alyx @MK2boogaloo @matrix @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @colonelj @repent @adolf @verita84 Oh dude I'm sure she was blind and deaf. I'm saying Anne Sullivan wrote all of it. In fact I think it makes Helen Keller's story a sadder tale. I think she was used.

But she was also fed and warm and alive, so screw it I guess.

@MisterRogersSnapped @MK2boogaloo @matrix @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @colonelj @repent @adolf @verita84
>I think she was used.
Honestly, I could believe that. From what I remember about her story, is that she couldn't communicate with anyone until she was like 5-7 years old. Children lost in wilderness and recovered late in their development like this are really hard to be raised properly and usually lack the full intellectual development of an adult human. So I can definitely see Helen Keller be ripe for all sorts of manipulation.

@alyx @MisterRogersSnapped @MK2boogaloo @matrix @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @colonelj @repent @adolf @verita84 What if Helen Keller never existed? She could never feel, hear see or speak. How is such a person able to write books. The entire story is ridiculous.

@maxmustermann @alyx @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @colonelj @matrix @repent @verita84 I think a person who was deaf and blind named Helen Keller existed. I think Anne Sullivan created the content. There is film of Helen Keller.

@MisterRogersSnapped @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @alyx @colonelj @matrix @repent @verita84 In this sense, yes, Keller was real. What wasn't was her authorship.

@maxmustermann @MK2boogaloo @matrix @colonelj @MisterRogersSnapped @repent @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @verita84

>What if Helen Keller never existed?
I mean... clearly a person calling herself Helen Keller existed...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ch_H8pt9M8

I honestly don't even see a use in speculating whether she existed or not.
And if you can't imagine how one can communicate thoughts and ideas in different ways than you, than you lack imagination.

@alyx @MK2boogaloo @matrix @colonelj @MisterRogersSnapped @repent @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @verita84 Let me get it straight: You believe, a person who neither speaks, feels, can see nor hear who grew up in the wilderness has somehow dictated radical feminist to a her caretaker, correct?

Any 70s cult had more reasonable believes and these were batshit insane.

@maxmustermann @MK2boogaloo @matrix @colonelj @MisterRogersSnapped @repent @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @verita84
Dictated, sure. Whether the thoughts themselves actually originated from her, or she just basically repeated what she was taught, that I don't now. Even today plenty of kids come out of university saying and writing a lot of marxist bs. Doesn't mean the ideas are their own.

@alyx @MK2boogaloo @matrix @colonelj @MisterRogersSnapped @repent @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @verita84

Nigger, you are presupposing that Keller could communicate to begin with.

@maxmustermann @MK2boogaloo @matrix @colonelj @MisterRogersSnapped @repent @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @verita84

I don't know fam, the video shows she's quite competent at communicating for someone deaf and blind.

@alyx @MK2boogaloo @matrix @colonelj @MisterRogersSnapped @repent @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @verita84 Who also lacks feeling. Are you sure the videos are genuine? The story still doesn't add up.

@maxmustermann @MK2boogaloo @matrix @colonelj @MisterRogersSnapped @repent @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @verita84
This is the second time you mention feeling, do you mean like in emotions? Where do you get this from?

@alyx @MK2boogaloo @matrix @colonelj @MisterRogersSnapped @repent @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @verita84 Feeling as in sensing touch. On top of deaf and blind, she was also numb.

@maxmustermann @MK2boogaloo @matrix @colonelj @MisterRogersSnapped @repent @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @verita84
Not something I've heard about. Maybe something happened later in her life, but she felt things just fine in her youth.

@maxmustermann @MK2boogaloo @matrix @colonelj @MisterRogersSnapped @repent @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @verita84

>are the videos genuine
Damn... I didn't think about the 1950s AI deep fake technology.

@alyx @MK2boogaloo @matrix @colonelj @MisterRogersSnapped @repent @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @verita84 How about Hollywood trickery? People are fooled by the dumbest shit.

@alyx @MK2boogaloo @MisterRogersSnapped @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @colonelj @matrix @repent @verita84 Remember Tourist guy? One of the earliest hoaxes that became a meme.

@MK2boogaloo @MisterRogersSnapped @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @alyx @colonelj @matrix @repent @verita84

@maxmustermann @MK2boogaloo @matrix @colonelj @MisterRogersSnapped @repent @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @verita84
Not familiar with him. What does he have to do with the 1950s though?

@maxmustermann @alyx @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @colonelj @matrix @repent @verita84 the only way that works back then is if the person in the film footage was an actress. I don't think its provable.

@maxmustermann @MK2boogaloo @matrix @colonelj @MisterRogersSnapped @repent @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @verita84
>Hollywood trickery
What, in the 50s? You for real? That's even before the fucking Moon landing. Thinking they had the tech back then is bad enough, now we're going back almost another 2 decades?

@alyx @MK2boogaloo @matrix @colonelj @MisterRogersSnapped @repent @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @verita84 This is such a beautiful attempt. You are conflating something that could be easily staged

- Making footage of Keller with her handler and make claims that she could sense her handler coming.

With something that is a lot harder to fake and a hell of alot more expensive to make; Footage of the Moonlanding in a Studio.

@alyx @maxmustermann @MK2boogaloo @matrix @colonelj @repent @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @verita84 I dont think it was possible to expose Helen to enough information to have those complex thoughts make any sense. Those freshly born Marxists can at least quote thoughts people had. I don't think Helen understood 99% of what it is said she did. It's likean experiment where an animal pushes a button to get food.

Of course they are all dead so we will never know.

@MisterRogersSnapped @alyx @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @colonelj @matrix @repent @verita84 At least Hellen Keller realism pisses people off and make other people look like morons just for the sole virtue of claiming that Keller was more than just a prop.

@alyx @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @colonelj @matrix @maxmustermann @repent @verita84 dead like Hitler's doctors :D :p :D (I'm sorry lol I had to I'm just fucking around with that part of the conversation)

@MisterRogersSnapped @MK2boogaloo @matrix @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @colonelj @repent @adolf @verita84 @maxmustermann
Can't say I know one way or another. Eventually we reach a point were a particular question becomes relevant: if someone/something manages to simulate intelligent thought well enough, how can you distinguish between actual intelligence and a simulation or AI or whatever. If Helen Keller was that good at repeating whatever she was told to, how can we be sure it was just repetition and not her actual thoughts?

@alyx @MisterRogersSnapped @MK2boogaloo @matrix @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @colonelj @repent @adolf @verita84

What Helen Killer still couldn't do: Sensing her own environment.

@alyx @MK2boogaloo @MisterRogersSnapped @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @colonelj @matrix @repent @verita84 This will go nowhere by the way, because you deliver free entertainment by looking like an idiot defending a impossible myth that had been pushed into the throats of Burger gen Xers by the same generation that believed the Laurel Canyon music scene was genuine.

@maxmustermann @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @alyx @colonelj @matrix @repent @verita84 bro your ruining it lol

Next you will tell me both Jimi Hendriz and Jim Morrison had parents in military intelligence...

@MisterRogersSnapped @MK2boogaloo @matrix @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @colonelj @repent @adolf @verita84 @maxmustermann
The way his going, I wouldn't be surprised if he things GamerGate sold Jesus out for 40 pieces of silver.

@alyx @MisterRogersSnapped @MK2boogaloo @matrix @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @colonelj @repent @adolf @verita84
You seem to feel very strongly about it. Please stare at this for 15 minutes.

@MisterRogersSnapped @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @alyx @colonelj @matrix @repent @verita84 Next I recommend Weird Scenes inside the Canyon.

@repent @alyx @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @colonelj @matrix @verita84 shitty memes are why people hate having conversations about anything remotely controversial. Act like an intelligent man not a miserable meme spouting fucktard. Sitting in mummy's loft with your kipper and a cumsock on.

@MisterRogersSnapped @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @alyx @colonelj @matrix @verita84 Not my fault you can't convince a kike to hate kikes.

@repent @MK2boogaloo @matrix @MisterRogersSnapped @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @colonelj @adolf @verita84
You guys are so bad at this, you probably couldn't have gotten Hitler to hate "kikes".

@alyx @MK2boogaloo @matrix @MisterRogersSnapped @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @colonelj @adolf @verita84 For the record the kike is you, and MisterRogersSnapped is the sped wasting his time trying to convince you of shit you will never believe.

Notice everyone else left, I was off reading another thread myself until MisterRogersSnapped lost his shit over an image.

@repent @alyx @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @colonelj @matrix @verita84 "lost his shit" gaslight em harder, faggot. Lol. I'm enjoying myself.

Go put on your red spats doc martens and the rest of the uniform your overlords created to identify you.

@repent @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @alyx @colonelj @matrix @verita84 You should put your dad's picture back on the wall before your poor widowed mother misses it.

@repent @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @alyx @colonelj @matrix @verita84

Waaaaaaait a minute...

No one hates jews as much as jews hate themselves. This post is bad on multiple fronts.

@MisterRogersSnapped @repent @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @alyx @colonelj @matrix @verita84 It is kinda weird how the two most mocked groups (outside of just "Whites" in general) from Hollywood are Christians and Jews, and yet Jews are the ones doing the mocking. Larry David, South Park, Mel Brooks, etc.

Why do Hollywoodites hate Israelites so much?

@EyelessMC @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @alyx @colonelj @matrix @repent @verita84 hollywood is godless and mostly evil.

@MisterRogersSnapped @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @alyx @colonelj @matrix @repent @verita84 It's funny you say that. At Mister Rogers's Lifetime Achievement Award speech, the old neighbor looked Hollywood in the face and gently, politely told them TV needs to do better and blamed corruptive programming for inspiring violent crime among kids (13yr old abducting 8yr old)

It was his gentleman's way of telling Hollywood to stop being degenerate creeps perverting our youth.

@EyelessMC @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @alyx @colonelj @matrix @repent @verita84 I've seen it. He was a good guy.

@EyelessMC @MisterRogersSnapped @MK2boogaloo @SouvlakiSmuggler @Zyklon_Dan @adolf @alyx @colonelj @matrix @repent @verita84 "Stop making my characters gay or I'm gonna have to go sicko mode"
-A Pimp Named Rogers
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