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Slogan: Don’t mess with Texas.

Everything is 100% open in Texas. Where will Greg Abbott be when people have to clean up the mess? Probably not in Texas. @alex

@posrev @arh @alex Florida has been open for months and has the same curve as the most restrictive states. There's not going to be a mess. The cure has been worse than the disease this whole pandemic and I don't understand why everyone is angry at Abbott for lifting restrictions that didn't work. Is the correct reaction to a failed course of action to double down and do it forever?

@wiggles @alex I realise this is a a catch 22 situation. I don’t like coronavirus restrictions either. I don’t think it’s expecting too much to wear a mask and have some basic precautions.

We are yet to see if the vaccine is effective. Hopefully this virus will fade away like the Spanish flu. @arh

@posrev @alex @arh controversial take but I don’t think the masks are effective and universal masking has a lot of downsides, as a random example, speech delays in small children who need to be able to see the lips of the adults speaking to them in grade school

Do you know anyone who has caught coronavirus?

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Yup. I personally know about 5 people (6 if you count a 4 year old kid).

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@alyx The reason I asked is because there are some people who think there is no coronavirus. @wiggles

@posrev @alyx I’d say “thanks” but the condolences are more for my wife than for me. She has a big extended family w/ lots of older folks who weren’t very good at following any kind of precautions.

I know a bunch more people who’ve had the disease who were ok, including my parents, my best friend’s parents, and some of my friends.

I do think the lockdowns killed my grandmother, though, she was in her nineties and died “of old age” after being isolated for a long time, when previous to the pandemic she was still going to church and the library and such and was very mentally sharp.

Obviously it’s hard to know at that age how much time she really had left, but she traveled across the country just before the pandemic started and deteriorated from being able to do that to death in 11 months. I’m sure many people have stories like this.

Anyway point in all that is that I am definitely not a COVID denier or even skeptic, what I’m a skeptic of is the efficacy of heavy-handed governmental restrictions on our freedoms that had better be really effective if they’re to be justified, and I don’t see deaths like my grandmother’s being counted in the “cons” column for lockdowns.

@wiggles @posrev @alyx I had it back in Nov last year, wasn't fun, but I know of people who died from it :2050:

@ArcticGrapes Did you have to go to hospital or were you able to stay at home? @wiggles @alyx

@posrev I stayed at home, bed ridden for like a week, I still think I've got long Covid, my lung capacity is not what its used to be, and i can't fully taste anything yet which sucks

@alyx @wiggles

@ArcticGrapes I have read a bit about the long term effects of coronavirus. Doctors and scientists are still learning about the long term effects. Lets hope it’s not permanent. @alyx

@wiggles All I can say is that I am sorry for your family. I don’t know anyone who has died from coronavirus. I agree that governments can be obsessive in their restrictions. We really have to watch that they don’t abuse their power. @alyx

@ew you’re doubting that my wife’s family lost five people? fuck you @alyx @posrev

@wiggles @alyx @posrev well they didn't die to covid. if they did they probably would have died with the cold or flu.

@ew @alyx @posrev lol one of them contracted COVID from their daughter who got it at the office going in to drop off some paperwork and died within 24 hours and was previously healthy, just old, fuck you

@wiggles @alyx @posrev yeah, like I said, would have died if they caught the flu or cold instead of covid.

@ew another one was in his 50s and was otherwise healthy, just overweight. Probably had 30 years left on him.

My wife also has a friend in his 30s who is suffering long-term lung problems from having the disease almost seven months ago

you’re just a troll

@alyx @posrev

@wiggles @posrev @ew
>you're just a troll
I'm afraid it's worse than that. He's just stupid.

@ew @wiggles @posrev
>links huff po
Really?! That's probably worse than linking Alex Jones as your proof.

@alyx @wiggles @posrev huh? you're the one who has to prove covid is dangerous.

@ew @wiggles @posrev
I don't have to prove jack shit to someone like you. It's not my fault you basically look out the window and say the sky is green.

@alyx @wiggles @posrev actually you do. you called me stupid, yet are engaging in a logic fallacy that has the word ignorance in it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

@ew @wiggles @posrev
No, I'm just insulting you. I didn't say you were wrong because you're stupid. I just said you're stupid.

@ew I hope your family loses 5 people and then some retarded segregationist online tells you that they “press x to doubt”

@alyx @posrev

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