@dave
Why are people surprised? Pretty much their entire case against Harvey Weinsten was that he had power and influence. It's typical marxian thinking: if you have money and power in a capitalist system, you must be evil.

@alyx @dave power affords you certain things, like credible threats that make people do something they'd rather not to avoid something worse, so it makes sense to consider power dynamics in evaluations of some kind. The conclusion that the more powerful party in any dispute must therefore be in the wrong and punished for it is where they leave the rails.

@cereal @dave
I still find the idea of equating it to rape bullshit, as NO ONE has an absolute NEED to work in Hollywood. So he kicks a women out of show business. So? She still has a million things she could do with her life. It's like complaining that at a regular job your boss makes you do something demeaning once, like scrub a shit filled toilet. Sure, you could complain that he used his power to make you do something you'd rather not do, so that you avoid getting fired. Or you could FUCKING LEAVE.

@alyx @dave
>She still has a million things she could do with her life.
Her being where she is in life is the consequence of a number of choices, some of which can only be made once or a few times, like your choice of occupation. What you're saying is "she could just go clean toilets" as if people don't have any amount of aspirations in their lives that they work towards in terms of education, for example.

@cereal @dave
If they so easily took the Weinstein road, I don't give two shits about their aspirations. It's like asking me to care about the aspirations of a criminal. Why should I care if you don't have the backbone to stand up for yourself?

But it doesn't really matter what the MeToo crowd claims Weinstein did. I don't believe the words of any of them. Especially not after the Amber Turd case.
If Weinstein did do extortion, blackmail, rape, sexual assault, or other stuff, I expect COLD HARD TRUTH, not the say so of a whore.