@fba That's weird. lab.nyanide.com is the only instance that they block, apparently, and they block it because of Ukraine. cc @nyanide
@ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @nyanide @sysrq All the NAFO instances were dead by the end of 2024, almost like it was astro-turf:
https://fedilist.com/instance/nafo.social (Early tap-out:
2023-08-31)
https://fedilist.com/instance/nafo.army (2024-12-04)
https://fedilist.com/instance/nafo.uk (2024-10-20)
There were some other ones.
https://fedilist.com/instance/nafo.social (Early tap-out:
2023-08-31)
https://fedilist.com/instance/nafo.army (2024-12-04)
https://fedilist.com/instance/nafo.uk (2024-10-20)
There were some other ones.
@ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @nyanide @sysrq It turns out that they were just trying to double their efficiency: instead of putting people through deradicalization programs after extended exposure to The Four Chan, they made them all post on NAFO instances.
@p @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @nyanide @sysrq @fba
The First Amendment protects radicalization. The government does not. That’s why the first amendment restricts the government, not the people.
We should have given the constitution itself some nukes.
The First Amendment protects radicalization. The government does not. That’s why the first amendment restricts the government, not the people.
We should have given the constitution itself some nukes.
@Leyonhjelm @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @nyanide @sysrq Well, I mean FBI employees that have to go "infiltrate" the four channel and then periodically submit to indoctrination reinforcement, but I agree with the post and also the last line. (For self-defense, or in case the Constitution wants to go duck-hunting but feels lazy that day.)
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@p @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @nyanide @sysrq @fba @Leyonhjelm
Quick question, more out of genuine curiosity than anything else: how do we know that 4chan post is real? Like how do we know the buy actually had any insider information, and wasn't just making shit up? Or the less likely possibility, that he was saying the opposite of reality to lull people into a sense of security?
Didn't the semi-recent hack reveal that the mods were controlled, and something something Israeli IPs? In that kind of an environment, what exactly is it that make people trust this particular post?
@p @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @nyanide @sysrq @fba @Leyonhjelm
Oh, I absolutely agree that it is completely plausible. Which is why I do find the post highly interesting, and I keep reading it every time I encounter it. But plausible things don't always end up being true. So to me, it's one of those things I am cautious to completely believing it, or repeating it as factual, because it kinda feels too good to be true.
Thanks for clarifying the Israeli IP thing, and thanks for your response. I guess we're ultimately in agreement. It reads as absolutely plausible and possible, but we don't actually know.
@alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @nyanide @sysrq @fba @Leyonhjelm
> But plausible things don't always end up being true.
Sure; this is the reason we have two words.
> I am cautious to completely believing it, or repeating it as factual,
The internal "de-radicalization" programs are actually documented; that's the only part I "repeated as factual"; it's about as factual as anything is unless you've seen it yourself. A guy tells a story on 4chan: that's a story on 4chan.
> Thanks for clarifying the Israeli IP thing,
I replied to myself everywhere I posted it, but the retraction never gets as much interest as the thing itself.
> It reads as absolutely plausible and possible, but we don't actually know.
By the time we have any complete certainty about anything, it will have already changed. The only thing you can do is take what's plausible and then you get a handful of complete pictures to keep in mind. Trying to collapse the wave function prematurely makes the interference pattern disappear.
SSA-11-white-crusade-how-to-prevent-right-wing-extremists-from-exploiting-the-internet.pdf
> But plausible things don't always end up being true.
Sure; this is the reason we have two words.
> I am cautious to completely believing it, or repeating it as factual,
The internal "de-radicalization" programs are actually documented; that's the only part I "repeated as factual"; it's about as factual as anything is unless you've seen it yourself. A guy tells a story on 4chan: that's a story on 4chan.
> Thanks for clarifying the Israeli IP thing,
I replied to myself everywhere I posted it, but the retraction never gets as much interest as the thing itself.
> It reads as absolutely plausible and possible, but we don't actually know.
By the time we have any complete certainty about anything, it will have already changed. The only thing you can do is take what's plausible and then you get a handful of complete pictures to keep in mind. Trying to collapse the wave function prematurely makes the interference pattern disappear.
SSA-11-white-crusade-how-to-prevent-right-wing-extremists-from-exploiting-the-internet.pdf
@p @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @nyanide @sysrq @fba @Leyonhjelm
these mfs on the image look like they surge rent up 25% just by sitting in a park somewhere
these mfs on the image look like they surge rent up 25% just by sitting in a park somewhere
@dagda @Leyonhjelm @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @nyanide @sysrq
> these mfs on the image look like they surge rent up 25% just by sitting in a park somewhere
David Hogg is visible second from left.
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> these mfs on the image look like they surge rent up 25% just by sitting in a park somewhere
David Hogg is visible second from left.
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@p @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @nyanide @sysrq @dagda @fba @Leyonhjelm
I hope this picture was taken in the penis explosion chamber
I hope this picture was taken in the penis explosion chamber
@alyx @p @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @nyanide @sysrq @fba @Leyonhjelm
The mods, including moot, were controlled since at least GG. During Hill's campaign you'd often see posts supporting her that'd feel like paid posts. But they were never able to have a meaningful effect.
I think the first time they were able to use memes successfully was NAFO.
It may may be impossible to to prove the post is real but it is is plausible under the circumstances at the time.
The mods, including moot, were controlled since at least GG. During Hill's campaign you'd often see posts supporting her that'd feel like paid posts. But they were never able to have a meaningful effect.
I think the first time they were able to use memes successfully was NAFO.
It may may be impossible to to prove the post is real but it is is plausible under the circumstances at the time.
@laurel @alyx @Leyonhjelm @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @nyanide @sysrq
> I think the first time they were able to use memes successfully was NAFO.
...Well, debatable. Depends on what counts as a meme. They've done an exceptional job with outrage-farming and "emotional contagion" (as the Facebook researcher called it). If you mean the effective use of humor and satire, then NAFO still didn't pull it off.
Establishment careerists cannot pull off subversive humor: the type of person that makes jokes like that is the type of person that reads wrong in those workplaces. I don't think I still have this paper, but some humorless researchers decided to try to analyze humor, so they split it into different axes, they determined that children enjoy jokes based on absurdity more than adults do, and adults like jokes where you have to resolve an apparent contradiction. The Simpsons character replacing the "2" in "2 more weeks" with another sign reading "2", right, that's a situation where there's an apparent contradiction and then to understand it you have to reason that the previous message was "2 more weeks" and the current message is "2 more weeks" and this is a joke about the lockdowns. You have to kind of be swimming in that context to understand the joke and if you are the person selling "2 more weeks" and you are trying to stop people from questioning it, then you can't come up with that joke. Writing that joke requires you to be fluent in opposing opinions rather than just familiar with them, which you cannot do if you are a partisan on the other side.
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> I think the first time they were able to use memes successfully was NAFO.
...Well, debatable. Depends on what counts as a meme. They've done an exceptional job with outrage-farming and "emotional contagion" (as the Facebook researcher called it). If you mean the effective use of humor and satire, then NAFO still didn't pull it off.
Establishment careerists cannot pull off subversive humor: the type of person that makes jokes like that is the type of person that reads wrong in those workplaces. I don't think I still have this paper, but some humorless researchers decided to try to analyze humor, so they split it into different axes, they determined that children enjoy jokes based on absurdity more than adults do, and adults like jokes where you have to resolve an apparent contradiction. The Simpsons character replacing the "2" in "2 more weeks" with another sign reading "2", right, that's a situation where there's an apparent contradiction and then to understand it you have to reason that the previous message was "2 more weeks" and the current message is "2 more weeks" and this is a joke about the lockdowns. You have to kind of be swimming in that context to understand the joke and if you are the person selling "2 more weeks" and you are trying to stop people from questioning it, then you can't come up with that joke. Writing that joke requires you to be fluent in opposing opinions rather than just familiar with them, which you cannot do if you are a partisan on the other side.
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@p @Leyonhjelm @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @nyanide @sysrq
>If you mean the effective use of humor and satire, then NAFO still didn't pull it off.
It didn't around these parts. It was very successful at organizing an online movement with inside jokes, internal symbols, an identity, an active community, irl events and so on. It turned supporting Ukraine into an enjoyable and fun activity, with constant gore and dehumanization on the side.
Their humor and satire seems retarded to us but it is effective towards the people they were targeting.
I agree with both pics you posted. It wasn't only Kony2012, but it is this type of online organization that they've been trying to replicate.
Regarding the second picture, being able to attract young people is a strength rather than a weakness. For the people participating in it, it was fun. Now compare it with Hillary2016 which was a total embarrassment. Meanwhile, Hill's campaign managers were rightfully accused of being old geezers completely disconnected with young people.
>If you mean the effective use of humor and satire, then NAFO still didn't pull it off.
It didn't around these parts. It was very successful at organizing an online movement with inside jokes, internal symbols, an identity, an active community, irl events and so on. It turned supporting Ukraine into an enjoyable and fun activity, with constant gore and dehumanization on the side.
Their humor and satire seems retarded to us but it is effective towards the people they were targeting.
I agree with both pics you posted. It wasn't only Kony2012, but it is this type of online organization that they've been trying to replicate.
Regarding the second picture, being able to attract young people is a strength rather than a weakness. For the people participating in it, it was fun. Now compare it with Hillary2016 which was a total embarrassment. Meanwhile, Hill's campaign managers were rightfully accused of being old geezers completely disconnected with young people.
@laurel @Leyonhjelm @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @nyanide @sysrq
> It was very successful at organizing an online movement with inside jokes, internal symbols, an identity, an active community, irl events and so on.
It died when the funding dried up; I think it just managed to attract some random participants, it didn't really turn into a community. It's one thing to get people to show up and drink their beer while they watch the band, it's another for them to join bands and organize shows. Compare NAFO to something like Occupy Wall Street or GamerGate; astroturf doesn't set down roots. NAFO was not as long-lived as skibidi toilet.
> Regarding the second picture, being able to attract young people is a strength rather than a weakness.
Sure; not exactly the point, though. Ignore the Twitter person's commentary about the NAFO post.
> It was very successful at organizing an online movement with inside jokes, internal symbols, an identity, an active community, irl events and so on.
It died when the funding dried up; I think it just managed to attract some random participants, it didn't really turn into a community. It's one thing to get people to show up and drink their beer while they watch the band, it's another for them to join bands and organize shows. Compare NAFO to something like Occupy Wall Street or GamerGate; astroturf doesn't set down roots. NAFO was not as long-lived as skibidi toilet.
> Regarding the second picture, being able to attract young people is a strength rather than a weakness.
Sure; not exactly the point, though. Ignore the Twitter person's commentary about the NAFO post.
@laurel @Leyonhjelm @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @nyanide @sysrq This has been deleted (for some reason :threeletteragent:) but here's some commentary from the MWI at West Point: https://web.archive.org/web/20220913123727/https://mwi.usma.edu/on-trolls-and-nuclear-signaling-strategic-stability-in-the-age-of-memes/
@Leyonhjelm @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @laurel @nyanide @sysrq And I mean to say that this is what they say about that, not to say that this article represents truth in any capacity. Like, this bit:
> The #bringbackourgirls campaign of 2014 led to military intervention against the Islamist Boko Haram insurgent group in West Africa. Incredibly, a great power adversary seeking to understand US critical national interests during a time of crisis cannot entirely discount the success of memes as a leading indicator for the direction of US foreign policy.
I think this is "wet streets cause rain" at best and in the likely case is the author pretending that astroturfing isn't astroturfing: "Look at all of this grassroots activism! We have to follow the will of the people!"
> Virtue-signaling online communities can make bellicose threats and maximalist demands that policymakers cannot without risking credibility. Whether through deliberate government synchronization with meme generators and social media bomb throwers or not, trolls then essentially become bad cops to the policymaker good cops. The angry online mob calls for nuclear escalation within their ideological echo chambers while prudent national leaders claim to be exercising responsible restraint.
This last paragraph is essentally an acknowledgement that the government was running a glow-op.
> The #bringbackourgirls campaign of 2014 led to military intervention against the Islamist Boko Haram insurgent group in West Africa. Incredibly, a great power adversary seeking to understand US critical national interests during a time of crisis cannot entirely discount the success of memes as a leading indicator for the direction of US foreign policy.
I think this is "wet streets cause rain" at best and in the likely case is the author pretending that astroturfing isn't astroturfing: "Look at all of this grassroots activism! We have to follow the will of the people!"
> Virtue-signaling online communities can make bellicose threats and maximalist demands that policymakers cannot without risking credibility. Whether through deliberate government synchronization with meme generators and social media bomb throwers or not, trolls then essentially become bad cops to the policymaker good cops. The angry online mob calls for nuclear escalation within their ideological echo chambers while prudent national leaders claim to be exercising responsible restraint.
This last paragraph is essentally an acknowledgement that the government was running a glow-op.
@p @Leyonhjelm @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @nyanide @sysrq
>It died when the funding dried up; it didn't really turn into a community.
Yeah, it was a marketing operation but a successful one at that, even if the war wasn't.
>astroturf doesn't set down roots.
It doesn't, that is why it is necessary for them to subvert existing communities. They managed to get /k/ though, which is now an asset to them and will always be utilized during relevant events, like Palestine and Iraq.
>Ignore the Twitter person's commentary about the NAFO post.
Article 5ing on twitter was fun for the people doing the beatdown, that was the whole point of it. Make it enjoyable for the participants to censor the opponents.
What they describe as "mooks" from that very interesting article you linked in your other reply:
>mobs of interchangeable serf-like “mooks” mobilized by recreational outrage and snark to spar with ideological opponents of similar status. Mooks hope to signal their virtuous worth as rhetorical combatants to ultimately be elevated in the hierarchy to the level of knight.
>It died when the funding dried up; it didn't really turn into a community.
Yeah, it was a marketing operation but a successful one at that, even if the war wasn't.
>astroturf doesn't set down roots.
It doesn't, that is why it is necessary for them to subvert existing communities. They managed to get /k/ though, which is now an asset to them and will always be utilized during relevant events, like Palestine and Iraq.
>Ignore the Twitter person's commentary about the NAFO post.
Article 5ing on twitter was fun for the people doing the beatdown, that was the whole point of it. Make it enjoyable for the participants to censor the opponents.
What they describe as "mooks" from that very interesting article you linked in your other reply:
>mobs of interchangeable serf-like “mooks” mobilized by recreational outrage and snark to spar with ideological opponents of similar status. Mooks hope to signal their virtuous worth as rhetorical combatants to ultimately be elevated in the hierarchy to the level of knight.
@laurel @Leyonhjelm @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @nyanide @sysrq
> Article 5ing on twitter was fun for the people doing the beatdown, that was the whole point of it.
Well, that was a tactic (a tactic out of Alinsky), not really a meme. I mean, pulling it back around to the actual question, right, NAFO was not "the government has learned to meme", it was "the government can fund propaganda operations on the internet".
> Article 5ing on twitter was fun for the people doing the beatdown, that was the whole point of it.
Well, that was a tactic (a tactic out of Alinsky), not really a meme. I mean, pulling it back around to the actual question, right, NAFO was not "the government has learned to meme", it was "the government can fund propaganda operations on the internet".
@p @Leyonhjelm @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @nyanide @sysrq
>Well, that was a tactic (a tactic out of Alinsky), not really a meme.
Yeah, 100%, it was the successful application of said tactics online from their side (because /we/ have been applying these same tactics during GG, donglegate and similar).
>NAFO was not "the government has learned to meme", it was "the government can fund propaganda operations on the internet".
Given your earlier definition of meme encompassing humor and satire (and truth), the government is never gonna learn how to meme. But what they need is to subvert online spaces and organize successful online operations.
>Well, that was a tactic (a tactic out of Alinsky), not really a meme.
Yeah, 100%, it was the successful application of said tactics online from their side (because /we/ have been applying these same tactics during GG, donglegate and similar).
>NAFO was not "the government has learned to meme", it was "the government can fund propaganda operations on the internet".
Given your earlier definition of meme encompassing humor and satire (and truth), the government is never gonna learn how to meme. But what they need is to subvert online spaces and organize successful online operations.
@laurel @Leyonhjelm @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @nyanide @sysrq
> the government is never gonna learn how to meme. But what they need is to subvert online spaces and organize successful online operations.
Completely agreed; they do know how to subvert them but there's the hard way (send an obstructionist to pretend to not be a cop) and the easy way (White House calls up the Twitter Trust and Safety desk and tells them to censor something). (And other ways they use less often, like what they did to Gab.) The easy way was really convenient if you have a central management system (Twitter, Facebook, Bluesky, etc.); fedi must look like 20,000 militias cropping up in the woods. I'm kind of surprised there haven't been *more* WaPo hitpieces.
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> the government is never gonna learn how to meme. But what they need is to subvert online spaces and organize successful online operations.
Completely agreed; they do know how to subvert them but there's the hard way (send an obstructionist to pretend to not be a cop) and the easy way (White House calls up the Twitter Trust and Safety desk and tells them to censor something). (And other ways they use less often, like what they did to Gab.) The easy way was really convenient if you have a central management system (Twitter, Facebook, Bluesky, etc.); fedi must look like 20,000 militias cropping up in the woods. I'm kind of surprised there haven't been *more* WaPo hitpieces.
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@p @Leyonhjelm @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @nyanide @sysrq
Yeah, but I don't think it's one or the other. The point is to subvert those places that in combination with mass marketing, will be able to positioned as the hubs through which normies will be funneled.
It's not about taking us to their side, we can always be sidestepped. It's about controlling normies.
Yeah, but I don't think it's one or the other. The point is to subvert those places that in combination with mass marketing, will be able to positioned as the hubs through which normies will be funneled.
It's not about taking us to their side, we can always be sidestepped. It's about controlling normies.
@laurel @Leyonhjelm @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @nyanide @sysrq
> The point is to subvert those places that in combination with mass marketing, will be able to positioned as the hubs through which normies will be funneled.
Well, yeah; if people stop getting funneled (i.e., they move to a decentralized network) then that's a problem.
> The point is to subvert those places that in combination with mass marketing, will be able to positioned as the hubs through which normies will be funneled.
Well, yeah; if people stop getting funneled (i.e., they move to a decentralized network) then that's a problem.
@p @Leyonhjelm @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @nyanide @sysrq
Not if the biggest instances they are directed to are freeFEDextremist, fediFEDS and similar, while non subverted instances are fediblocked. Normal people can differentiate between mastodon[dot]social and poa.st. But they cannot differentiate between poa.st and nicecrew. They will go where they are told and where they get their cummies.
As such, they only need to take control of some of the spaces, and then make sure that those are the "places to be".
My expertise would be leftist spaces pre-Occupy but a similar process happened to hacker spaces.
Not if the biggest instances they are directed to are freeFEDextremist, fediFEDS and similar, while non subverted instances are fediblocked. Normal people can differentiate between mastodon[dot]social and poa.st. But they cannot differentiate between poa.st and nicecrew. They will go where they are told and where they get their cummies.
As such, they only need to take control of some of the spaces, and then make sure that those are the "places to be".
My expertise would be leftist spaces pre-Occupy but a similar process happened to hacker spaces.
@laurel @Leyonhjelm @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @nyanide @sysrq
> Normal people can differentiate between mastodon[dot]social and poa.st. But they cannot differentiate between poa.st and nicecrew.
Oh, I see what you mean; funneling them to specific instances. Yeah, I get that.
> a similar process happened to hacker spaces.
Goddamn, tuggin' me heartstrings. They've razed our villages.
> Normal people can differentiate between mastodon[dot]social and poa.st. But they cannot differentiate between poa.st and nicecrew.
Oh, I see what you mean; funneling them to specific instances. Yeah, I get that.
> a similar process happened to hacker spaces.
Goddamn, tuggin' me heartstrings. They've razed our villages.
@p @laurel @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @nyanide @sysrq @fba @Leyonhjelm They had a hacker space near me, filled ut with diversity and got shut down due to people not funding it. [the faggotry that flooded it, scared all the normal users away that paid the rent]
@Whitewall_Blasphemy @laurel @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @nyanide @sysrq @fba @Leyonhjelm Many such cases. Nobody wants to be anti-whoever if they're running something neutral like a hackerspace, they want everyone to be able to take advantage, and then they get pushed into the enforced inclusivity and suddenly a recreational hacking zone has a totalitarian HR department, everyone's been conscripted into the social justice shit, the backbone of the place gets demoralized because it's a room they go into and apologize instead of a place where they go do creative shit they can't do at their dayjobs or teach other people how to pick locks.
It is kind of difficult not to notice the similarities:
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It is kind of difficult not to notice the similarities:
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@p @laurel @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @nyanide @sysrq @fba @Leyonhjelm Yeah, that makes a shitload of sense.
They can't have people with minds getting an outlet or a movement. The media basically cheered the OWS being shut down but never really elaborate about how it fizzed out. Thanks.
They can't have people with minds getting an outlet or a movement. The media basically cheered the OWS being shut down but never really elaborate about how it fizzed out. Thanks.
@Whitewall_Blasphemy @laurel @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @nyanide @sysrq @fba @Leyonhjelm
> The media basically cheered the OWS being shut down but never really elaborate about how it fizzed out.
Larry Fink is a genius; unfortunately he's also a psychopath.
> The media basically cheered the OWS being shut down but never really elaborate about how it fizzed out.
Larry Fink is a genius; unfortunately he's also a psychopath.
@p @Whitewall_Blasphemy @Leyonhjelm @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @laurel @nyanide @sysrq You posting about his made me search on those happenings the other day. Because I mostly knew about it from the memes. Thinking, that I won’t find anything interesting on Wikipedia, I went to Academic, expecting to find some articles, that would, perhaps, be too small and not covering it all, but written by independent researches. But there was a copy of the Wikipedia page, as it was on the 67th day, when OWS was still ongoing. It was quite interesting. Zizek’s quote seems to be found quite in time, heh.
The article on Wikipedia in its current state is heavily cut, it threw off several sections, including that one about activists (from where this quote is taken), they also removed the photo of the Jewish detective (my radar beeps) who was overseeing the happening.
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The article on Wikipedia in its current state is heavily cut, it threw off several sections, including that one about activists (from where this quote is taken), they also removed the photo of the Jewish detective (my radar beeps) who was overseeing the happening.
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@dorkvalized @Leyonhjelm @Whitewall_Blasphemy @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @laurel @nyanide @sysrq Not a huge surprise that it's been scrubbed, but it's interesting.
@dorkvalized @p @Leyonhjelm @Whitewall_Blasphemy @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @laurel @nyanide @sysrq
America doesn't play when you threaten Larry Fink's profit.
America doesn't play when you threaten Larry Fink's profit.
@p @laurel @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @nyanide @sysrq @fba @Leyonhjelm
>wapo
Only one I know of was Taylor Lorenz on mastodon. She's of course functionaly retarded.
>wapo
Only one I know of was Taylor Lorenz on mastodon. She's of course functionaly retarded.
@ins0mniak @Leyonhjelm @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @laurel @nyanide @sysrq She wrote a hit-piece?
@p @laurel @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @nyanide @sysrq @fba @Leyonhjelm I dont even remember. She was on here for a few minutes. Wapo tech writer had no clue where she was or how anything worked.
Only connection with Washington post I can remember.
Its about the most worthless newspaper. It's good for local weather, I'll give them that but everything else is just cia marching orders to the MSNBC anchors.
Only connection with Washington post I can remember.
Its about the most worthless newspaper. It's good for local weather, I'll give them that but everything else is just cia marching orders to the MSNBC anchors.
@ins0mniak @Leyonhjelm @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @laurel @nyanide @sysrq Oh, yeah, I mean, I was just using WaPo as an example of an establishment newspaper; establishment newspapers hate fedi.
@p @laurel @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @nyanide @sysrq @fba @Leyonhjelm Oh yeah I figured, I just never miss a chance to shit on them
@ins0mniak @Leyonhjelm @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @fba @laurel @nyanide @sysrq Well, they're useful: you can see what Bezos or the government is mad about lately. Remember when the government was mad about encryption and WaPo said "GOLDEN KEY"? Good times: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/compromise-needed-on-smartphone-encryption/2014/10/03/96680bf8-4a77-11e4-891d-713f052086a0_story.html
@p @laurel @alyx @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @nyanide @sysrq @fba @Leyonhjelm gotta love jackasses that dont understand the first thing about computer opening on high while linking the boots of knee jerk authority.
But yeah you're right.
But yeah you're right.
> Quick question, more out of genuine curiosity than anything else: how do we know that 4chan post is real?
Everything I have ever observed from working at an office makes it completely plausible that a bunch of middle-aged suits would have no idea how to make a meme. (Recall that I am myself middle-aged.) Look at Peter Daou's entire career: Huffington Post, ShareBlue, Verrit. The type of skill that makes your career in politics is, as far as I can tell, mutually exclusive with things like "sense of humor" or "lateral thinking". You also have things like Kamala Harris saying at a campaign event that it's really dangerous to allow Musk to "speak to millions of people with no oversight": if they could steer it, they wouldn't be so panicked about no longer being able to censor it. Or look at the PowerPoints from the NSF report from ReclaimTheNet ( https://screamshitter.club/rvl/full/835374c1bfa10895663d4d1c94500049823ea928fb7e9c47b01a6b7f8f07c091 ).
Fundamentally, though, there is no way to really verify the story. Just everything in it looks completely plausible.
> Didn't the semi-recent hack reveal that the mods were controlled, and something something Israeli IPs?
The Israeli IP thing (which I posted a lot of) turned out to be a doctored screenshot posted as a joke. The bit about the mods being controlled, that was real.
> In that kind of an environment, what exactly is it that make people trust this particular post?
Why would anyone believe anything they read?
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