https://fedilist.com/instance/nafo.social (Early tap-out:
2023-08-31)
https://fedilist.com/instance/nafo.army (2024-12-04)
https://fedilist.com/instance/nafo.uk (2024-10-20)
There were some other ones.
The First Amendment protects radicalization. The government does not. That’s why the first amendment restricts the government, not the people.
We should have given the constitution itself some nukes.
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@p @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @nyanide @sysrq @fba @Leyonhjelm
Quick question, more out of genuine curiosity than anything else: how do we know that 4chan post is real? Like how do we know the buy actually had any insider information, and wasn't just making shit up? Or the less likely possibility, that he was saying the opposite of reality to lull people into a sense of security?
Didn't the semi-recent hack reveal that the mods were controlled, and something something Israeli IPs? In that kind of an environment, what exactly is it that make people trust this particular post?
> Quick question, more out of genuine curiosity than anything else: how do we know that 4chan post is real?
Everything I have ever observed from working at an office makes it completely plausible that a bunch of middle-aged suits would have no idea how to make a meme. (Recall that I am myself middle-aged.) Look at Peter Daou's entire career: Huffington Post, ShareBlue, Verrit. The type of skill that makes your career in politics is, as far as I can tell, mutually exclusive with things like "sense of humor" or "lateral thinking". You also have things like Kamala Harris saying at a campaign event that it's really dangerous to allow Musk to "speak to millions of people with no oversight": if they could steer it, they wouldn't be so panicked about no longer being able to censor it. Or look at the PowerPoints from the NSF report from ReclaimTheNet ( https://screamshitter.club/rvl/full/835374c1bfa10895663d4d1c94500049823ea928fb7e9c47b01a6b7f8f07c091 ).
Fundamentally, though, there is no way to really verify the story. Just everything in it looks completely plausible.
> Didn't the semi-recent hack reveal that the mods were controlled, and something something Israeli IPs?
The Israeli IP thing (which I posted a lot of) turned out to be a doctored screenshot posted as a joke. The bit about the mods being controlled, that was real.
> In that kind of an environment, what exactly is it that make people trust this particular post?
Why would anyone believe anything they read?
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@p @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @nyanide @sysrq @fba @Leyonhjelm
Oh, I absolutely agree that it is completely plausible. Which is why I do find the post highly interesting, and I keep reading it every time I encounter it. But plausible things don't always end up being true. So to me, it's one of those things I am cautious to completely believing it, or repeating it as factual, because it kinda feels too good to be true.
Thanks for clarifying the Israeli IP thing, and thanks for your response. I guess we're ultimately in agreement. It reads as absolutely plausible and possible, but we don't actually know.
> But plausible things don't always end up being true.
Sure; this is the reason we have two words.
> I am cautious to completely believing it, or repeating it as factual,
The internal "de-radicalization" programs are actually documented; that's the only part I "repeated as factual"; it's about as factual as anything is unless you've seen it yourself. A guy tells a story on 4chan: that's a story on 4chan.
> Thanks for clarifying the Israeli IP thing,
I replied to myself everywhere I posted it, but the retraction never gets as much interest as the thing itself.
> It reads as absolutely plausible and possible, but we don't actually know.
By the time we have any complete certainty about anything, it will have already changed. The only thing you can do is take what's plausible and then you get a handful of complete pictures to keep in mind. Trying to collapse the wave function prematurely makes the interference pattern disappear.
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