@PinochetsCommieCopter
Could Nigerian end up becoming the safest place to raise children in?
You know what... if you can't even "fix" adult trans people effectively and efficiently, to where they don't kill themselves more than people who were held and tortured in concentration camps, you have no place experimenting with your "fixes" on children.
There is no negotiating on this. There is no compromise to be made. Perfect your treatment on adults, and maybe then we can reopen this discussion.
Every time I end up in a debate with someone defending any form of gender conversion therapy for children, I end up having less and less sympathy for transgender people overall.
If you want to regain the sympathy of the average person, you really need to pick your advocates better, and to clean your own house.
@icedquinn
Can the Earth randomly explode instead? Please!
@animeirl @rimugu @MasterSimper @matrix
I will admit to a mistake though. I really shouldn't call this a field of medicine.
@animeirl @rimugu @MasterSimper
You mean @matrix ? Holly FUCK! That was a satirical post showing how informed consent is a complete JOKE in this field of medicine.
I'm talking about ACTUAL informed consent. The kind where a child can't consent to sex. And likewise a child can't consent to any of the trans crap.
@animeirl @rimugu @MasterSimper
You didn't even try to argue "you're wrong, this is what informed consent actually is", but nice try, but FUCK OFF YOU DISGUSTING GASLIGHTING GROOMING LIAR!
@animeirl @rimugu @MasterSimper
That's rich coming from a liar like you. I guess I should take it as a compliment.
@MasterSimper @rimugu @animeirl
Right now I just want this disgusting crap away from children, but in the long term, we really need to rethink our approach to treating this. It's literally the only mental disorder where the treatment involves telling the patient their train of thought, caused by a poorly understood brain misfiring, is correct.
We don't treat schizophrenia by telling the patients that the bugs in their walls really are alien robots sent to collect their hair.
Why the mainstream is so convinced that "affirming gender" is the only correct way to go, is beyond me.
@animeirl @rimugu
>Seems you can't read since I am literally advocating for more restrictions on puberty blockers/hrt than currently exist
WHERE THE FUCK DID YOU DO THAT, YOU FUCKING LIAR!!
I will NOT stand here to be gaslight by the likes of you! You DISGUSTING, FILTHY MANIPULATIVE LIAR!
I made my position more than clear, and then you INSINUATE that I want to put children on sex hormones, when YOU'RE that one that literally think it's ok for children below 18 to be given that crap, when YOU'RE the one that sees no issue with that, when YOU'RE LITERALLY the one that thinks children won't be on puberty blockers for long, cause they'll advance to HRT treatment fast enough to where long term studies on puberty blockers are not needed. HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!
I have met many horrible people, BUT NONE AS EVIL AS YOU.
@animeirl @rimugu
>people start hormone therapy before 18
That's literally ILLEGAL. So if you know such cases, you are aiding and protecting criminals by not reporting.
>so I am against "informed consent" practices in children
So you really are a groomer then.... I don't see how else I can interpret this.
>but to demand all cross sex treatment in children be banned is child abuse
Funny, puberty blockers aren't even actual part of proper gender/sex transitioning, but it's good to see what your end goal actually is.
@animeirl @rimugu
Because standards of care is definitely what is going on IRL. /sarcasm
Take a good look around you, YOU FUCKING IMBECILE, people are given HRT after a single consultation ALL THE FRICKING TIME. THERE IS NO STANDARD OF CARE IRL. And trans advocates CONSTANTLY AND CONSISTENTLY claim that children as low as 1-3 years of age can be "trans". Which means, that as soon as they get close to the age of puberty, at ~10 years, they want those children on puberty blockers. That gives them at the very least 8 years of taking that crap, until they reach they age of maturity, and they're legally allowed to proceed with the rest of the transgender treatment, meaning hormone suppressors and hormone replaces.
Everything you said has been so SEVERELY uninformed and stupid, that I can only assume you're a troll.
Whether I am correct in this assumption or not, I insist that you NEVER talk to me EVER AGAIN. I have no place in my life for someone who is this evil as yourself.
LEAVE CHILDREN OUT OF YOUR FUCKING DISGUSTING IDEOLOGY.
@animeirl @rimugu
>it shouldn't be used more than a couple years
That's the short term use I referenced already. But for "trans" children, what people effectively are advocating for is to feed this stuff to children for close to a decade, until they grow into an adult, so they can go on with the rest of the transitioning treatment. That's long term use. And you don't have studies on that, because these drugs have never been used in this way before.
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