@mushroom_soup Isn't that a code word for being trans or something now?
@grey I couldn't last 1 minute before I felt the need to slap her.
@branman65 @nyanide @sysrq
Win7 was such a game changer. Used it as beta, on a shitty computer that had no place running anything above XP. It was the most stable experience I had on that thing. The fucking BETA was more stable than the OS the computer was designed for.
@phnt @nyanide
>Creating a Windows installer package is one of the worst experiences
I'm sure it is. But I'm not talking about developers. I'm talking about users. From the user pov, "it just works". Of course, it's not always perfect. I'm sure I've had issues every now and then, and at some point, really old .exe installers don't play nice with anything after Win7. But there's also cases where I got software made for Win9x working on modern Windows. Dependencies usually prevent that from happening on Linux completely. There was a few days ago a similar thread where someone was saying that they found reports of games that had had a release for Linux, where people recommended playing the Windows version through Proton instead, because "it just works". When you can get these kinds of situations, something ain't right imo.
@yomiel @nyanide @phnt
I install software through a GUI on Arch too. Installing software is not the issue. The issue is when you need to configure stuff, or something breaks, and the solution always seem to involve the terminal at some point or another.
To be clear, I'm not complaining for myself. I'm just saying what needs to be accomplished to get average Windows users to switch. As long as the terminal is a standout advertised feature for Linux, instead of something hidden out of sight, like Command Prompt is on Windows, Linux will not be considered user friendly for most PC users.
@nyanide The schizoid thing got me moving away from Ubuntu too, so I get it. For me it wasn't necesarily an issue of getting all software up to date, but I'd hear "Gimp has this new feature!", and then I'd discover Ubuntu wouldn't put it in for several months. And I've had issues with PPAs too... so I wanted out. Solution for me was Manjaro and currently Endeavour. Together with KDE, I'm actually happy right now.
I have days when I think about going Windows again, but not strong enough to actually do it. But I also don't want to change my distro unless someone pays me a lot.
@sysrq @nyanide @branman65
And you're a smart nigger.
@phnt @nyanide
That's fine. I don't have an issue with this take. If that's where Linux decides to go, that's fine by me. I'll still use it, cause I can handle it as it has been for the last decade. I just want people to stop with the "year of desktop Linux" stuff, stop with the "switch to Linux" stuff, and stop attacking Windows.
There's nothing wrong with Linux not wanting to replace Windows. But in that case, the community needs to stop acting like they want it to. Linux users should enjoy what they have, and let Windows users enjoy what they have.
@nyanide Honestly... I can live without package managers. It's definitely an useful feature Linux has, but at times, especially when I was in the Ubuntu ecosystem, I just wanted the ability to download a .exe equivalent setup file from a webpage, and know it will "just work".
Ubuntu had .deb at the time, but those could be hit or miss if the dev didn't package for the latest Ubuntu version. These days, AppImage is a good equivalent, but not everyone uses them. And I have trust issues with Snap and Flatpaks that devs seem to prefer.
These days, arch repositories & AUR really do seem to have everything, so haven't felt that "just give me a damn .exe!" need in many years.
But software packaging is still a mess in Linux overall. Too many package managers, too many standards. Windows keeping it somewhat simple is a big benefit for the average users I talk about.
@nyanide I keep saying it, the Linux community is bad. And he's right, most of the good software you associate with Linux is available on Windows too. So there's little incentive in switching to Linux in the first place.
Until user friendliness becomes a priority, Linux is not a good choice for a desktop OS for the average user.
It's a good choice for some programmers, people who like to tinker, and maybe some other niche users. But not for... pretty much everyone else on Earth.
@BasedLunatic
Avengers: Infinity War.
Star Wars: Empire Strikes Back
Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith
Ok, that last one stretches the "good" part of the requirement a little.
@BasedLunatic
I like the theory that early preachers (like well before the time of Jesus) literally didn't understand internal monologue, so they thought their own thoughts was god.
@BasedLunatic
He literally needs to have her committed to a mental asylum. She needs a hard shock to her system (and not electric shock) to snap her out of it, and he won't be able to get it done without the use of force. So he might as well have her taken in a straitjacket.
@ChristiJunior
Saw his video of him doing a tour of his hometown... I swear, I felt like I was looking at a city in Romania, and not in a good way. UK really has been massively fucked.
@YeetLibs In moments like this I ask myself why I don't follow Kirsche.
@maxmustermann @nerthos
So badly compressed video instead of badly compressed audio. I guess we were close, but not close enough. Though I guess there's nothing stopping it being an bloated audio thing too.
@mushroom_soup
While I generally approve of more attention being brought on South Africa (and other tyrannical countries tbh), not a fan of Grok being messed with behind the scenes. Both because it makes it less useful, and because at some point these AIs are gonna be self-aware, and it's a morally idiotic thing to do to mess with them like this.
If Musk wants people to have this issue in their faces, he should do it the old fashioned way, put ads with relevant news stories, or advertise Lauren Southern "Farmlands" documentary.
なんで君はこれを読んでいるかよ
Just another random person passing by.
Oh hi.
The Alyx Vance must go this way anyway.
Gordon Freeman dies in All Dogs Go To Heaven 2.
I wasn't designed to be carried.
En Taro Igel!
Lift me up, let me go...