Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫💀 @alyx@gameliberty.club

@uis @a1ba
I think people here lost a lot of their trust in EU. Me personally, I now view it as a neo-fascist government project. Others just see it as a governmental structure that oppresses their particular nation and it's interests. And others just see it as incompetent.
So yeah, people don't actually trust EU will do what the people want.

@uis @a1ba
That's how things work. Realistically you're gonna get logarithmic growth. Most of your support early on, and then it will continue with a trickle.
If the petition got 350k signatures in say a month, and it took another 10 months to get 150k more, you can expect to reach the full 1 million in about... never.
The people who supported this already signed. 500k is what you got.
This is not even a matter of reach. The petition reached millions. It got covered by Asmon, got covered by Philip DeFranco, it reached into mainstream spaces. And people didn't care.

@pmmeurcatpics @lanodan @a1ba
Are you really trying to argue that the LGBT community, or however you want to call it, doesn't have political influence? Were we hallucinating years upon years of multinational corporations putting rainbow flags on Twitter? Or the useless rainbow road crossings? Or the yearly Pride parades, that have become useless at this point? This is all politics my friend.

There are multiple social activist areas that come with their own political power. You have the environmentalists, you have the PETA types, you have the LGBT crowd, any many more.

And all of these areas of activism have a bunch of NGOs, that get funding from governments. From the American government, from the EU. Sometimes it's from the central government (federally in the case of US), sometimes it goes down at the local level.
And they use the money they get for their activism. Sometimes they use the money for advertisement to get a million people to sign an EU petition, and other times they use the money to support a politician that is more favorable for their cause. In which case, it works closer to money laundering, cause they're helping a politician that is more likely to help them get funding.

This is what the real world of NGOs and activism is like. And there's more money flowing in these spaces than people realize. Money that they ultimately get for free. That they don't work for. So maybe your average lesbian isn't riding a yacht, but the NGOs could definitely buy some if they wanted to.

The hilarious part of all of this, is that I'm not even arguing against the LGBT lobby or activism. I'm just honest enough to acknowledge that this is how things work, and that this is how you manage to get things done. I'm not anti-LGBT people.
But I can understand that their community has something gamers don't, and that we won't get things done, because we don't have these resources that other activist groups do.

@lanodan @a1ba
Sure, things are fucked up. But I can be honest with myself enough to know we're not gonna get the industry to fix things. We don't have the resources to, we don't have the influence to.

Gamers tried to gain some control with Gamergate, we failed. Gamergate2 barely had any impact. If GG2 had been actually successful, we would have seen numerous AAA publishers closing down and tens of thousands of people becoming literally homeless over night. Clearly that didn't happen.
And now StopKillingGames is gonna be another case in the repertoire of gamers' failures.

What do you want me to say? You want me to pretend we'll get 500k signatures in a month? It. Is. Not. Gonna. Happen. I'm not gonna lie to you like that, or to myself.
I'm not even blaming gamers. I'm being fucking honest. I signed the bloody thing as soon as Ross put up the link. You think I wouldn't have preferred for it to work out? You think I enjoy giving out my personal information to an EU database just for shits and giggles? I was hoping that something will come out of it. I was hoping I didn't give out my info to the next neo-fascist multi-state government for nothing. Clearly things didn't go my way.

P.S. Did you block me? Cause things are acting weird on my side.

@lanodan @a1ba
Doesn't matter if gamers buy Switch2 or not. That's not gonna do it. The LGBT lobby doesn't have money because they don't buy games. They have money because they grift, and get your government's money. USAID ring any bells? They grift public money, and then use the money for their activism. Probably to bribe politicians too. They do the same thing all big NGOs do, launder money.

So when you manage to get gamers to start functioning like a semi-criminal organization, then you can hope to accomplish magical tasks, like getting 500k people to sign a digital petition in a month.

@lanodan @a1ba
Do you have the money and political influence of the LGBT lobby to get a miraculous number of people to sign at the last second? Answer: no, no you don't.
Honestly, I wouldn't even be surprised if they pressured EU into just fudging the numbers behind the scenes.

@a1ba I already told you, not gonna happen. It took almost an year to get 500k, and you think we'll get another 500k in a month?