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@matana @mushroom_soup @TheAncestor @autu886234 @ChristiJunior@neckbeard.xyz @Kagekokoro@neckbeard.xyz @Mikuchi @Ricotta Both are false because neither have reliable data. Menarche thing is based on shit like medical reports, which people didn't do without a reason, and there was obvious stigma to report. Young girls are fit, which is why people had them as wives and mothers

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@mushroom_soup @matana @TheAncestor @autu886234 @ChristiJunior@neckbeard.xyz @Kagekokoro@neckbeard.xyz @Mikuchi @Ricotta
From your first source:
>The continued reduction in the age of onset of puberty should not be treated as a biological anomaly. It is likely that some 20 000 years ago, humans had already evolved to experience menarche at around 12 years and at present many countries are moving back to this position.7,15
THANKS SAVING THIS TOO
fucking fantastic

@mushroom_soup @applejack @ChristiJunior @Kagekokoro @Mikuchi @Ricotta @TheAncestor @autu886234 @matana Or uh you can also go read Marquis de Sade, particularly in 120 Days of Sodom where a group of perverts among other things kidnap 12-15 year olds, it's interesting reading how he describes them (hint hint: the youngest as sexually completely undeveloped children)
@slovborg @mushroom_soup @ChristiJunior @Kagekokoro @Mikuchi @Ricotta @TheAncestor @applejack @autu886234 @matana people got married younger in the past but that dont mean niggas in their 30s should be fucking around with 14 year olds.

@James10550088 @matana @slovborg @autu886234 @mushroom_soup @TheAncestor @ChristiJunior@neckbeard.xyz @Kagekokoro@neckbeard.xyz @Mikuchi @Ricotta If you want to base things around French weirdos, Antoine Lavoisier was in his 30s when he married his 13yo wife

@mushroom_soup @matana @slovborg @TheAncestor @autu886234 @ChristiJunior@neckbeard.xyz @Kagekokoro@neckbeard.xyz @James10550088 @Mikuchi @Ricotta Male in early 20s or a bit younger and a girl aged 9-14 is pretty sane. Can't say I personally advocate for anything else. Girl being younger is also fine if you're patient

@James10550088 @matana @slovborg @autu886234 @mushroom_soup @TheAncestor @ChristiJunior@neckbeard.xyz @Kagekokoro@neckbeard.xyz @Mikuchi @Ricotta Add what? She'll learn everything she needs by experience. If she has no experience with it, she doesn't need it.

@applejack @James10550088 @matana @slovborg @autu886234 @mushroom_soup @TheAncestor @ChristiJunior @Kagekokoro @Mikuchi Not to mention that she's been training to keep a home and raise children since she was a toddler. Girls play house and play with dolls because these games teach them the critical skills they'll need later in life in the exact same way as boys fighting and playing soldier.

Not to mention that by that point she should have direct experience through helping her mother with cooking, chores, and raising her younger siblings.
@James10550088 @applejack @ChristiJunior @Kagekokoro @Mikuchi @Ricotta @TheAncestor @autu886234 @matana @mushroom_soup @slovborg Learning to add by 9?

The absolute state of the American education system. Or the Yuropoor education system or wherever the fuck you live.
@miria @ChristiJunior @Kagekokoro @Mikuchi @Ricotta @TheAncestor @applejack @autu886234 @matana @mushroom_soup @slovborg being a pedant about a dig at a dude for wanting to fuck a child doesn't make you clever

It makes you a candidate for ditch filler.

@miria @James10550088 @RandomSlacker @Mikuchi @TheAncestor @matana @autu886234 @ChristiJunior@neckbeard.xyz @mushroom_soup @Ricotta @Kagekokoro@neckbeard.xyz @slovborg
>Suchy et al. (2009): No significant differences. Pedophilic child molesters: 106.59; Non-pedophilic child molesters: 102.05; Community controls: 105.62
Given that it's only ever criminal and clinical samples I'm gonna bet it's higher. Average for criminals is generally way lower.

@James10550088 @matana @slovborg @autu886234 @mushroom_soup @TheAncestor @ChristiJunior@neckbeard.xyz @Kagekokoro@neckbeard.xyz @miria @Mikuchi @RandomSlacker @Ricotta "arg, im irrationally angry but have no sane way to respond. hmmm, i know!"

@applejack @mushroom_soup @matana @TheAncestor @autu886234 @ChristiJunior @Kagekokoro @James10550088 @Mikuchi @Ricotta How to say "I'm a loser male in early 20s who still fantasises about muh teenage love due to being a failed teenager" lmao
@James10550088 @slovborg @ChristiJunior @Kagekokoro @Mikuchi @TheAncestor @applejack @autu886234 @matana @mushroom_soup That's actually the ideal arrangement in the Mediterranean pattern, since by his late 20s or early 30s the man has completed his apprenticeships and established himself in his trade and is born financially capable of supporting a family and mature enough to do so.

Men marrying young is a recipe for disaster.
@Ricotta @James10550088 @ChristiJunior @Kagekokoro @Mikuchi @TheAncestor @applejack @autu886234 @matana @mushroom_soup That's the ideal arrangement for loser males lmao, and guess what you get if you let loser males breed: more failures like you

@slovborg @matana @autu886234 @mushroom_soup @TheAncestor @ChristiJunior@neckbeard.xyz @Kagekokoro@neckbeard.xyz @Mikuchi @Ricotta
>French nobleman, revolutionary politician, philosopher and writer famous for his libertine sexuality. [...] De Sade is best known for his erotic works, which combined philosophical discourse with pornography, depicting sexual fantasies with an emphasis on violence, suffering, anal sex (which he calls sodomy), crime, and blasphemy against Christianity.
idk why you'd want this guy's fucking random description to be a factor, but whatever. I'll take your word for it

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