@matana @mushroom_soup @TheAncestor @autu886234 @ChristiJunior@neckbeard.xyz @Kagekokoro@neckbeard.xyz @Mikuchi @Ricotta Both are false because neither have reliable data. Menarche thing is based on shit like medical reports, which people didn't do without a reason, and there was obvious stigma to report. Young girls are fit, which is why people had them as wives and mothers

@mushroom_soup @applejack @ChristiJunior @Kagekokoro @Mikuchi @Ricotta @TheAncestor @autu886234 @matana Or uh you can also go read Marquis de Sade, particularly in 120 Days of Sodom where a group of perverts among other things kidnap 12-15 year olds, it's interesting reading how he describes them (hint hint: the youngest as sexually completely undeveloped children)
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>French nobleman, revolutionary politician, philosopher and writer famous for his libertine sexuality. [...] De Sade is best known for his erotic works, which combined philosophical discourse with pornography, depicting sexual fantasies with an emphasis on violence, suffering, anal sex (which he calls sodomy), crime, and blasphemy against Christianity.
idk why you'd want this guy's fucking random description to be a factor, but whatever. I'll take your word for it

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