> godot goes corpo
reminder that we may never have nice things

@icedquinn This is all you need.

https://www.libsdl.org/

@xianc78 @icedquinn As Xianc said, SDL is the way to go as far as having nice things goes.
Like how GTK 2.0 for desktop GUI, ncurses for terminal TUI, and languages like C, PHP, Go, and Lua without a framework.
Even PHP frameworks like Laravel feel more and more corpo-ish as it's getting more popular, all while real PHP will remain free (as in freedom) forever.

@ryo @icedquinn Just ignore the fact that I program games in C# using MonoGame. But yeah, frameworks are much better than engines. It feels so satisfying implementing levels, physics, AI, etc "from scratch".

@xianc78 @icedquinn I'm more a type of developer that wouldn't get passed the library level (on the scale of "from 0" → "library" → "framework" → "engine", the more forward, the more bloat).
I'd love to make video games from 0, but I feel like that'd be overkill.
At least making web apps and CLI apps from 0 is very doable.

@ryo @icedquinn This guy managed to do it. He even has a full tutorial on how to do it.

https://handmadehero.org/

Honestly, people using these engines need to ask themselves if they really need all those bloated features that engines provide. Does your game really need to be in 3D? Does it really need VR support? Does it really need RTX graphics?