it seems that the longer tears of the kingdom has been out, the less praise it has been getting. people are getting pretty critical of it now, myself included.

i can imagine that a year from now, it will be pretty low on most zelda fans' rankings. then, ten years from now, some 3 hour long video essay called "tears of the kingdom is a misunderstood masterpiece" will come out and change everyone's minds about the game except none of them will actually ever replay it and just think it was actually good.

that's the major test to determine whether a game was good or bad. if you can go back and play it ten years later and it's still just as good as everyone says it was, or you thought it was, if not better. games like ocarina of time, star fox 64, and mario 64 get better with age for me. games like silent hill that i never played until 15-20 years after their original release were just as good as people said they were. i can't imagine breath of the wild or tears of the kingdom falling into that same category, to be honest.

@beardalaxy It's the same with BotW. Really fun for the first 50 hours when you're actually exploring, but when you find everything then you just see the faults. TotK lasted me 100 hours though. I expect people to come around to it again when the DLC releases too

@Arkana i actually never got far into the botw dlc because i felt like there was nothing for me to do anymore. i had already completed the game 100%. i imagine that, unless the totk dlc brings some REALLY compelling story stuff to the table, i won't play it.

with botw i at least did go 100% (minus all 900 korok seeds, fuck that), but with totk i haven't even beaten the game yet. there's just way too much game there and i'm not hooked into the story enough. i'm right at the end, too, haven't touched it in a month. i got burnt out.

@beardalaxy I did the BotW DLC but didn't do all the shrines. I imagine the TotK one will add a lot of new building parts and hopefully the shrines are more open ended and building focused
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@Arkana with a new switch on the way, i'm curious as to what the timeline will be for that DLC. will it release as a sort of "launch dlc" with the switch 2? that would be interesting.

@beardalaxy Yeah I could see them doing a "complete edition" of Smash Ultimate too (Hopefully with some reworked online infrastructure)

@Arkana makes me wonder about mario kart 8 as well, with all of this booster pack stuff. like, the game will be content-complete for only like a year, year and a half before the next switch comes out. will they just port it? or will there actually be a mario kart 9 that comes out and tries to do something so wildly different that it justifies a new game?

the switch 2 is going to be an interesting time for nintendo indeed. it feels like they went all out with a fair amount of franchises for the switch, and it's hard to see where they go from here beyond expanded ports.

@beardalaxy And it's the same game that came out on the Wii U forever ago. They might take a while and release a full new one. I think the Mario Kart team has been focused on that mobile game and the RC car spinoff game, so they might have been developing a full new one too.

Or they will just have it be so all Switch games run on it natively like PS4 to 5 and it's just a hardware update for new games. But knowing Nintendo they will want to add some new kind of gimmick also
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