Talking with my friend about Zelda and it's very interesting to see how our opinions on Tears of the Kingdom and Breath of the Wild flip flop. I like BotW more, he likes TotK more. I think it's a gameplay VS story/lore thing, where TotK has much better gameplay but a really bad story, and BotW is the opposite. So whichever you like and prioritize more, will be the one you enjoy more.

@xianc78 That's fair. I liked BotW because there was SO much intrigue for me, and TotK pretty much killed all of that intrigue and did a lot of other stuff wrong.

@beardalaxy BoTW ignored a lot of the previously established lore though nowhere near the extent that ToTK did. In particular, I think the whole merged timeline thing is retarded.

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@xianc78 some of the stuff in BotW can be either easily overlooked or explained. Like the Rito and Zora existing at the same time, there are reasons for each timeline that could have happened without a merge. The Zonai could have been a couple different pre-existing races.

TotK introduced a shit ton of new stuff while also trying to rely on old stuff for veterans and none of it melded well. BotW had a huge amount of stuff that could be linked back to the older games in lots of different ways, and I think a lot of us were hoping that TotK would take some of those routes but it sort of just.... left it all hanging. Which kind of just proves that they were never really routes to begin with, more likely they were just references all along without any real meaning behind them.

Like, why tf does Zelda use the power of the Triforce at the end of BotW and then we NEVER see it again??? wtf is that all about??

But then you have stuff in TotK like the whole dragon thing and the deus ex machina ending that's just really, really poor writing imo. I don't think there's anything like that in BotW. The storytelling made a lot more sense in that game too, since Link legitimately had amnesia and it was 100 years later so of course nobody would really know him except for people that were alive back then. But TotK only some major characters from BotW know who he is. Most of the cast is totally oblivious. It's a very bad sequel.

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>Like, why tf does Zelda use the power of the Triforce at the end of BotW and then we NEVER see it again??? wtf is that all about??

I really hate how the Triforce only appears briefly in a flashback in BoTW and isn't even mentioned in ToTK. You create the biggest Zelda games ever and just shove that thing aside?

>But TotK only some major characters from BotW know who he is. Most of the cast is totally oblivious.

I feel like they made it that way just to make it easier for those who somehow haven't played BoTW which is dumb because literally everyone knows that it is a direct sequel. I mean, Majora's Mask actually scolds players who haven't played Ocarina of Time. If you Z-target any enemy from OOT and have Tatl analyze it, she will rudely ask you why you haven't fought that enemy before.

@xianc78 @beardalaxy totk felt like the adult version of botw. Botw main characters were written for babies

@Cosmic @xianc78 nahh, it takes a real baby to not understand that a direct sequel should actually be a sequel. the only people who played totk without having played botw were literal children.

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