@teto@cawfee.club @beardalaxy@gameliberty.club it's pretty good now, the only complaint I had was the endings are all equally horrible outside of the Soulkiller ending

@nihilvt @beardalaxy I remember all the overpromised RPG mechanics that werent in the game on release and I assume still arent in it now. Aside from the game running like shit but thats prob solved. So I was like "okay this is just GTA in 50 years lol, pass"

@teto @nihilvt yeah like the clothes you wear or car your drive have no affect on the roleplaying whatsoever. the life path you choose pretty much only matters for the beginning chunk of the game and only little dialogue bits after that. actions you take can adjust and tweak parts of stories and side stories here and there but nothing extremely major until the ending.

the main meat of the RPG formula is all in the character building, which was completely gutted and replaced at some point with much better options. i think it was the 2.0 update but it could have been before then a bit too. i just remember my friend telling me all about his build and i had no idea what he was talking about lol. but it's kind of cool, being able to just bust through a locked door because you have enough skill points allocated into your strength instead of finding a key or hacking it.

@nihilvt @teto yeah when i started the game i was disappointed because it wasn't what i thought it was going to be. then i adjusted to the kind of game it actually was and really liked it. then the ending i got just kind of sucked ass so i was back to being a bit disappointed again lol. i don't know what the obsession is with cyberpunk and having dogshit endings.

@beardalaxy@gameliberty.club @teto@cawfee.club the endings are intended to be bad because the whole idea is that everyone loses in Night City, even in the DLC the ending is horrible. You get to live but at the cost of some other shit that also makes you think "wow what the fuck"

@nihilvt @teto haven't played the dlc yet, I will one day. I'm not really talking about "bad endings" in terms of it ending in an unfavorable way though, I mean the writing is just bad imo. It all feels bleak just for the sake of being bleak which feels kind of cheap to me.

@beardalaxy@gameliberty.club @teto@cawfee.club I get that's the point of the endings but fuck I still hated them, I don't need a positive ending where I'm the hero but I at least wanted to leave an impact somewhere, but Johnny Silverhand did get to do that either and the entire idea is that the corporate corruption always wins, even in the Cyberpunk lore they've killed every single person in their way and you never hear of them again unless you meet one of their friends who's still in the kill list.

@nihilvt @teto yeah it's like, woooowww you get a drink named after you at a bar for all of your insane accomplishments, so cool xD

@teto not just cyberpunk 2077 the game i mean just the genre in general.

i liked the game and i played it back when it released. there are a lot of missed opportunities there i think, but it's still pretty good. i've only heard better and better things about it after all the updates too, which is commendable at the very least.

most of the combat is pretty shooty to be honest, but there are still a lot of ways you can play the game and approach combat scenarios. back when i played i went for a katana build and just dashed around slicing everyone up like a madman, it was awesome. if you go more into the tech skills you can just stealth around and fry people from the inside and shit like that.

as i usually say, probably pirate it to see if you enjoy what's there and then buy it if you did enjoy it.

i wish it were far more of an RPG in the vein of a bethesda game but better. i and i think a lot of people were expecting something more akin to a cyberpunk skyrim but what we got is closer to a cyberpunk witcher... which makes sense lol.

@teto @beardalaxy maybe, the world is beautiful and the game is technically very well made so even just traveling around is fun, but it's light on the RPG elements with a lot of missed potential and while you can play it melee or as a stealth hacker the shooting is still the best way to resolve conflict

@matrix @beardalaxy before the game came out they promised everything to be choice driven in stories and side quests but it was all a lie. I hated that more than the dogshit performance on launch

@teto @matrix yeah the major difference in story paths will always come down to talking VS killing pretty much.