@hideki @hideki :akko_nope2: If only Da would join in but that website is a lost fucking cause....i gave up on DA way long time ago when Wix acquire the website.

:what_cirno: Also how can you offer NFT / DA "protection" and generated ai art services at the same time??????
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@siinclaiir they care about artists but not enough to not profit out of them it seems.

To be honest, i think it's the users, the ARTISTS, and not the companies, who are gonna steer the trend to the good way. More people need to join these voices that demand to artists to be respected in the spaces created for them, and even more if such sites already ask money for premium treatement.

@book @siinclaiir If people don't care abour artist, then they don't care about art, they just like "pretty things"

@hideki @hideki @book @siinclaiir
That's some bullshit. If art requires meta knowledge than art has no inherent value.

@Reluctant_Weeb @siinclaiir @book

Yes, if you only care about the final result then art is meaningless.

@hideki @hideki @siinclaiir @book
The final result is the only part that has meaning. A half finished drawing in inherently less valuable than a finished one, and the finished piece can and should be evaluated separate from other considerations.

@Reluctant_Weeb @siinclaiir @book

If people only care about the final result and do not care about the motivations and struggles that are behind it, then it's something that will end up fading over time because it's something that's just "there".

There's this album by Metallica called "St. Anger" that every fan of Metallica likes to hate, and they hate it because to them it sounds awful and very different of what Metallica was doing until them.,

If you are someone who only cares about the final resul the story ends here, the album is shit, discarded, next thing.

But then this documental called "Some Kind of Monster" comes along which is all about how this album was produced, and you end up seeing that there was a lot of struggle, change and internal conflict present in the making of this album, then the album suddenly takes another dimension, you pay more attention to the lyrics and the sounds ad then you see this struggle reflected on the sounds being produced by the band.

The majority of fans still likes to discard the album and they go to the more clinically produced albums because "they sound better", and since they don't really appreciate the band, just what they produce, they fail to see that there's something to appreciate right there.

To me, it became my favourite album of them ever.

@hideki @Reluctant_Weeb @siinclaiir

>But then this documental called "Some Kind of Monster" comes along which is all about how this album was produced, and you end up seeing that there was a lot of struggle, change and internal conflict present in the making of this album, then the album suddenly takes another dimension, you pay more attention to the lyrics and the sounds ad then you see this struggle reflected on the sounds being produced by the band.
You learned more about the product and it enhanced your enjoyment of the product. It's still the product you are enjoying.

@book @Reluctant_Weeb @siinclaiir

My enjoyment of the product was enhanced beacuse i learned the background about it, it was no longer just about the final product. Otherwise it would have been discarded as another thing.

Paradoxically, the least albums that i like about the band are the ones that were created during the phase of "well, i guess we're big now so we have to keep producing more". That usually have the most classic and commercial hits.

@hideki @Reluctant_Weeb @siinclaiir

> it was no longer just about the final product. Otherwise it would have been discarded as another thing.
I cannot parse any meaning in this sequence of words.
You care about the product. The song. You like the song.

@book @Reluctant_Weeb @siinclaiir

*sigh* yes dude whatever i only care about the product.

I should write less walls of text if people aren't gonna spend a brain cell trying to understand trhem.

@hideki @Reluctant_Weeb @siinclaiir

It actually takes a lot of brain cells to cut all of the useless words out of your posts and find the core argumentative claims.
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@book @Reluctant_Weeb @siinclaiir That's a nice way of saying "i don't care about what you say lel."

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@hideki @Reluctant_Weeb @siinclaiir Most of what you are saying is stuff I don't care about, yes. You should work on that if you want to be listened to.

My response is a substantive response to everything substantive you said.
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