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@matrix not always. not skype.
@matrix should have said "wait it's all chromium?"
@matrix what would the alternative be?
@igel Literally anything
@matrix
>ok you make website in javascript, you want that in a box to make users install it (autostart on pc make software go brrr on startup = more money)
>Coding lead says "we will do it in c++"
>You fire retard
>ok you make website in javascript, you want that in a box to make users install it (autostart on pc make software go brrr on startup = more money)
>Coding lead says "we will do it in c++"
>You fire retard
@igel
>make a website
>want users to have an app
>just take full featured browser
>make it only open your site
>screw user CPUs and RAM
@matrix "lite weight" development hasnt been a thing for years, youve been in a coma
@igel
Just because it's a thing doesn't mean it's good
@matrix make a more cost effecient thing and companies will use it
@igel @matrix we're all aware, that's why we're complaining so much. ecmascript and web browsers only took off so full-forced due to extensive warring between netscape and others in the early days of the WWW, now we live with the fallout of that. we could have had better OSes by now and then native software *would be* the more cost-effective
i know youre a chronic shitposter but framing it as "YOU do something about it" isnt helping one bit. i'm actually trying to do something about it but at small scale, i can't build rome in a day
i know youre a chronic shitposter but framing it as "YOU do something about it" isnt helping one bit. i'm actually trying to do something about it but at small scale, i can't build rome in a day
@igel @matrix this is also not only about being lightweight but just being fucking lazy and using a web browser engine (that was bloated for the same reasons) for desktop applications
a fucking web browsers has multiple layers of abstraction that the user never sees and it's insane that they ever run this well in the first place
people started the browser hype long time ago and that created lots of jobs for web devs but just because a tool can be applied in some places, it doesn't mean it can be used everywhere
the other reason why electron started being a thing is because developers wanted to be "special" and started making their own UIs that ended up in the horrible mess we know from the windows desktop experience
TL;DR just because you know how to use a tool, it doesn't mean you can apply it for every problem you have. you don't just hammer a broken water pipe
a fucking web browsers has multiple layers of abstraction that the user never sees and it's insane that they ever run this well in the first place
people started the browser hype long time ago and that created lots of jobs for web devs but just because a tool can be applied in some places, it doesn't mean it can be used everywhere
the other reason why electron started being a thing is because developers wanted to be "special" and started making their own UIs that ended up in the horrible mess we know from the windows desktop experience
TL;DR just because you know how to use a tool, it doesn't mean you can apply it for every problem you have. you don't just hammer a broken water pipe
@igel @matrix @wowaname i don't see where i agreed with you... the native software that would allow pleroma to run without the "web browser" part was not written yet because people first looked for adoption before developing a software that may never see a release
there's already development on native software and mobile phones already have options
there's already development on native software and mobile phones already have options
@caskd @matrix @wowaname I dont get your point. It needs to work right now. Not sometime in the future. Even BloatFE has a little javascript in it if you activate it so the entire page doestn reload when you click like on something. Im not a dev so i dont dream of what you nerds might do "someday", just do it you stinky coders. I may use it. Until then I use what works
