@matrix
You don't even need to go that far. Just a Romanian or Bulgarian will do.

@matrix lmao cc @fp

what if the racists were universally people with lots of experience and knowledge while anti-racists are ignorant bigots with a superiority complex

haha wouldn't that be funny
@fluffy @matrix @fp Racism is definitely wrong, but anti-racism is rarely taken seriously. Even those who are supposed to be against it often embrace race ideology and participate fiercely in racial division.
@benk @fp @matrix when you say it's definitely wrong, do you mean it is not an accurate statement (e.g. "wrong address"), or that it is morally repugnant to you (e.g. "it's wrong to murder")?
@fluffy @fp @matrix I suppose wrong in the sense of thinking the Earth is flat wrong. Race was never science... more like superstition.
@benk @fluffy @fp @matrix

Wrong... according to whom? What is it?

Races are genetically different and have different abilities and inclinations.

We can accept that without being assholes about it.

We can also see quickly why diversity is insane.
@amerika @benk @fp @matrix I think he just means wrong in the same way you'd say "not believing in god is wrong". Like a statement of faith. I don't think anyone actually disputes that race is an accurate predictor of human behavior, you would have to be the most ignorant person imaginable to say that. there is a lot of controversy about why it is so.
@fluffy @amerika @fp @matrix Human beings do differ genetically, but not enough to define something you could call a race. What racists believe is that you can tell someone's personality based on their appearance.
@benk @fluffy @fp @matrix

Racists believe that different racial groups have different abilities and tendencies.

You have read that backward: you cannot tell someone's personality from their appearance, but you can make certain assumptions based on their genetics, and those tend to cluster. This does not apply to individuals, but groups as a whole.

Also, obviously genetics differ enough for races to exist because historically, races have existed and been consistent.
@amerika @benk @fluffy @fp @matrix

How does the fact that romani are aryan come into this discusssion, do you think?
@benk @amerika @fp @matrix
>Human beings do differ genetically, but not enough to define something you could call a race.

This is something of an anachronism. It was popular up until the 90s to say so because of a paper written in I believe 1987 about statistical differences across race being minor. But this paper is no longer considered by serious scholars because it used an outdated understanding of genetics. I am aware that people in the media still claim this, i think out of hope or ignorance, but the position has no intellectual merit. There is no such thing as race about as much as there is no such thing as hills.

>What racists believe is that you can tell someone's personality based on their appearance.

If you had to guess the personality of twenty girls, with a prize of a million dollars, and were given the choice of either you have no information, or you have information of their appearance, would seeing their appearance give you a better chance of winning?

I think so. You can look at clothes, you can look at weight, etc. You can guess income based on how expensive their clothes are. These can give you some insight. And you can see the rest of the argument from here.
@fluffy @benk @amerika @fp @matrix

Big brained realization: if there are no races, racism cannot exist.
@troonigger @amerika @benk @fluffy @fp @matrix

Good counter argument. I guess we can't do anything against irrationality other than sigh and carry on.
@nerdman @amerika @benk @fluffy @fp @matrix
No, your original argument was so weak that I'm starting to think you might be black.
@nerdman @amerika @benk @fp @matrix the west bet big that racism was mistaken, and (unfortunately) it appears they will lose big on it. They lost big because the anthropology that made this claim was riddled with corruption and bad science... it took over the field, and its intellectual bankruptcy destroyed it. It went from one of the crown jewels of academics to the butt of jokes across all disciplines.

It's one of our greatest tragedies that we dove face first into this utopian hope (it is a good hope tbh, and I wish it were true, but willful denial of reality will not make it so no matter how much media elites wish it will).
@fluffy @amerika @benk @fp @matrix

Eh. The problem is not betting that race doesn't exist. The problem is discarding meritocracy.

Sure some "races" might be more stupid than others. Some might be smarter.

Take the "jew" race. They've been artificially selected to be smarter / more adaptable because of all the prosecutions they've been put through.

People living in harsher climates will generally be selected to be inherently smarter.

But what the fuck does a person's race have to do to get a high score in a test? They could be an exception to their lineage, or a random gene picked up from a smart race at some point.

It doesn't matter if you're red, black, white or yellow. It matters if you're smart or dumb, hard working or lazy.

The rest is just noise.
@fluffy @nerdman @amerika @benk @fp @matrix It has literally fuck all to do with that. I live in an overwhelmingly white majority country and being good at math gets you ridiculed rather than revered. Even ambivalence would be more useful!

Contrast with, e.g. Shenzen, where shop floor workers will reprogram a CNC machine of their own volition to gain a 1% productivity gain.

Boasting about being bad at math, metaphorically and literally, is the greatest tragedy of the west.

You fucking thick nigger.
@troonigger @fluffy @amerika @benk @fp @matrix

I'm tempted to create a couple accounts just to like this comment more than once.
@amerika @troonigger @benk @fluffy @fp @matrix @nerdman yeah the sooner we get rid of white people the sooner the world will exist in a perfect utopia
@manarock @benk @fluffy @fp @matrix @nerdman @troonigger

I would favor just eliminating the weak, crazy, cruel, stupid, criminal, and perverse Whites.

Then you have higher quality Whites.

My group, WASPs, are a subset of Whites, and we like eugenics.
@amerika @manarock @benk @fluffy @fp @matrix @nerdman

Can we keep the crazy and perverted, if they're not also cruel? I kinda like those sorts of niggers.
@troonigger @benk @fluffy @fp @manarock @matrix @nerdman

I mean real, diagnosable insanity.

Perversion is harder to define, but twisted people who are not interesting and are obsessed by the pursuit of weird pathological sexual activity.

Pedophiles, internet trannies, etc.
@troonigger @amerika @benk @fp @matrix @nerdman i never said it was the greatest tragedy. just one of them. this is another. i agree that it's shit that w**** countries do that. Doesn't mean they can't be wrong about other things too.
@fluffy @benk @amerika @fp @matrix
The wrongheadedness of this entire discussion is striking.

You could easily guess their personality type as "blue", and be as right as anyone else.

Fucking nigger retards. Dutch Hunger Winter might give you some clues about the rest.
@matrix The question is how do we extend the latter reaction to other groups. :blobthinking:
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