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They basically admitted to everything. I love how they dressed it up for westerners.

I don't know how I feel about it. Islam is an extremist religion, but at the same time communists call everything but total obedience extremism.

@matrix suppose they were genuinely doing what they claim: removing radical islam. how would it look different?

@fluffy
It wouldn't but they have almost definitely rounded up and forced them into re-education camps without proof of anything.

@matrix >they have almost definitely

did you hear this from people who hate them

@fluffy
And? I think the drone footage is pretty substantial

@matrix drone footage of what? the facility?

Remember these are the same guys who had footage and witnesses saying there were WMD. So we know they will tell you there is cause for war when it suits them.

@fluffy
The same guys? Aren't you painting with a bit too large of a brush?

The footage of the Uygurs getting loaded into trains.

@matrix 1. "neoconservatives" were in power in the bush era and they are now.

2. it's just being put on a train. idgi
@matrix post the footage. if it's a good point i'll agree. just really doubt based on warmongering agenda

There are even guards in airports. Be honest, if you were deradicalizing a bunch of islamists, would you not have guards?

What do you think is more likely, that cartoon character supervillains exists or that the west is doing yet another "WMD in iran"/"gulf of tonkin"/"syrian gas baby" type propaganda attempt

@fluffy I forgot they blindfolded them too. It's not cartoon villain level. The Chinese just want an absolute control and a population with a different value system than they preach contradicts that.
youtube.com/watch?v=gGYoeJ5U7c

@matrix looks like just a bunch of guys waiting to be put into mass transit by police

what's this about blindfolds? nothing here says that. sounds cartoonish = probably bullshit or propaganda = bullshit
@matrix bro i watched this drone footage carefully and i hope you don't get upset but it sounds like if you have some hate against the chinese ON THE ACCOUNT OF THIS FOOTAGE then you are probably being radicalized

please take a deep breath and think about it. maybe i am wrong, and i am willing to be wrong, but be extra careful that it is not some weird conditioning going on on your side because you look kinda weird on this topic at least

@fluffy Maybe it is overexaggerated, but I don't see it as unlikely that a government that introduced social credit score and regularly disappears or imprisons critics might take extreme measure when it feels threatened.

@matrix i think it's just lies based on people who want to make a war.

america has no-fly listworse per capita chinese banned by social credit.

i don't believe for a moment it is some weird thing, and neither should you

you post a lot of cool things but my dude i think you are not combating western propgandana (of course it exists and is formidible) as strongly as you should

@fluffy Your social score gets lowered when you call out fraudsters, because the fraudsters practice tradition.
Well the US no fly list is questionable too.

@matrix I have been with this story sense 2014 form every thing I have seen they are 100% using them for free labor the re education camps seem to be new, they are also unconfirmable if there just prison camps who just so happen to primarily target the Muslims by chance or if they truly are concentration camps going after them but, in general China is cracking down on any religion or anything they see as anti China.

@matrix
>reproductive health
Forced sterilization is named reproductive health ? Seems legit.
@matrix That looks like propaganda aimed at the West. I seriously doubt Chinese women get the degenerate levels of freedom ours have here. :blobthinking: Or maybe they do. I'd like to find out. :blobthinkingglare:
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