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@matana My father was never like that.
Yes, you give up some things to raise children, but my cousin is so, I guess, contempt? that he doesn't even bother to fix a fan on his computer.

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@matrix @matana Owned men spend their time trying to make their wife happy instead of themselves.

@matrix @matana Kids can be tiresome, especially if you want (have) to help your wife.
I have to choose what to do, who to meet in my free time. And I have much less free time. The children are my "second job". My wife has to choose too.
Because of my attitude, some of my male acquaintances laugh at me (especially in the Slovak countryside), and female ones envy my wife. 😄

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