It's pretty slow

It's incredibly slow and networking isn't working

@matrix
Lmao. Phones are so good now that you can run a full desktop OS in qemu user mode. With software virtualization.

@r000t Yep. Phone performance is quite insane now.

@matrix @r000t this is the ideal phone. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

@takao @matrix @r000t

Hm... either Lumia 520, 535 or 630 is imho the pinnacle. Days of battery, 25km LoS connection, browser and NA as a pocast ;)

@r000t @matrix Phones would be cooler if they weren't as locked down.

If only we could get into the baseband modem...

@pyrate @matrix @r000t The early Android days when security didn't exist were wild. You could root your phone with a USB cable and then chroot into Linux.

I can do that now... I was able to root and sideload a different OS that I have root access to.

@parisc
When I was still a kid and didn't have anything to do all day (and life wasn't as dependent on a smartphone) I'd put a new OS on my phone every two weeks or so.
@matrix @pyrate

@pyrate @parisc @matrix @r000t
If only chip manufacturer/phone designers weren't a bunch of cunts.
https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=XIEXPLdM8rQ

@mangeurdenuage @matrix @pyrate @parisc fuck me that's scary. I could use a distraction.

@r000t @mangeurdenuage @matrix @pyrate @parisc

https://grapheneos.org/faq#baseband-isolation

@r000t @matrix @pyrate @parisc
>I could use a distraction.
Here's some guns and tidies.

@mangeurdenuage @matrix @r000t @pyrate @parisc oh and the whole 18 month BSP support is shit.

For the unfamiliar, Board Support Package is a vendor supplied, binary firmware blob. No bsp? No hardware support. Reverse engineering will get your ass yeeted into the sun.

I believe FCC compliance is partially to blame here. The modem is also the transmitter and is bound by commercial licenses.

@matrix
So you're basically emulating x86 on ARM64?

@alyx Yep

@matrix@gameliberty.club ofcourse

@matrix
>15 minutes
>only 2 min progress in installer
I know XP installer by heart. I've run it countless times on my ancient, now long dead, machine. If it runs THIS slow, it's probably not gonna be very usable. Although, there's still a chance the problem isn't the emulated processor speed, but rather phone storage speed.

@alyx I know. I don't expect good performance. It's the emulation speed. Modern phone storage is quite fast.

@alyx @matrix >using vnc viewer to access a shitty vm

shit fam give me 10 minutes

@alyx @matrix okay i didn't have xp iso on hand but you can run these natively almost in a full featured VM with passthrough even on mobile devices

@alyx @matrix native vm mobile nigga

@alyx @matrix first install of xp is 50% complete after 5 minutes this is on an iphone as well btw

@mona @alyx The initial part isn't that slow

@matrix @alyx to product key was another 5 minutes took me a minute to find the right product key but now its finishing in total install of windows xp professional on a mobile device is about 15 minutes

@mona @alyx That much much faster, what iPhone do you have?

@matrix @alyx iphone 12 mini its jailbroken but this VM program runs without jailbreak as well its about to boot into the desktop

@mona @alyx I just checked and in 3D Mark the 12 mini is 2 times faster than my phone. Plus I have the Exynos version which sucks ass at emulation. So I guess your performance makes sense.

@matrix @alyx yeah the phone is pretty fast everyone loves to shit on apple but their SOC is top tier

@mona @alyx That's true. Their ARM laptops are insane.

@matrix @alyx they've made their own mobile chips since 2006 so their laptops are insane and their phones are top tier in performance as well

@mona @alyx You can play Half-Life on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O19dNVTBCAs

@matrix @alyx yes! as i said even without jailbreak it has native passthrough and can tap into the iphone or ipads gpu to play windows games

@mona @alyx Now I want an iPhone so I can install VMs on the go

@matrix @alyx what bugs me is that android VMs run in this weird ram loaded mode and also need VNC viewer to display desktop and sound doesn't work 90% of the time vs with UMT you can load a complete OS on any ios device with fully working everything they even have support for full windows 11 and most mainline linux

@matrix @alyx the app is called UTM if you are jailbroken a cydia install works but you can also side load with full features still they also have native support for the major linux distros but also any iso you wanna shove in it

@matrix @alyx and that’s a winter it has fully working everything networking and sound

@alyx @matrix it’s snappy as fuck too

@matrix TempleOs phone when?

@matrix reminds me of that one time i tried windows XP on my powermac g5 quad, god that was so fucking slow