@matrix worshipping God isnt like loving a wife, your point is on the level of the average 16 year old redditor

@yangwenli
>not worshipping your wife as a god
smh, not very feminist of you

@yangwenli @matrix @Moon
even Catholic church says sex is great (as long as it's between a man and a women for the sole purpose of procreation) (you don't need to be married)
@kaia @matrix @Moon sex is hedonism and should be done for procreation you coomer
@yangwenli @kaia @matrix strictly speaking the Catholic Church is okay with sex for pleasure as long as it's also for procreation.
@Moon @kaia @matrix THAT JUST MEANS ITS ONLY FOR PROCREATION BUT YOURE ALLOWED TO ENJOY IT
@Moon @kaia @matrix basically, never use a condom or birth control pills and youre fine.
@ageha @kaia @matrix @Moon or they could just have less sex? Maybe get a bit less degenerate hobbies?
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@ageha @kaia @matrix @yangwenli i think the withdrawal method was permitted although obviously it doesn't really work
@Moon @kaia @yangwenli @matrix
catholic school i went to it was not allowed (football coach said so. he also had 11 children and a dead wife
@ageha @kaia @yangwenli @matrix woops yeah i was wrong. i would not make a good catholic (alive wife)
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@nerthos @kaia @matrix @Moon @ageha nobody can say she didnt have a filfilling life. So many children to be proud of
@Moon @yangwenli @ageha @kaia @matrix Realistically, you have no use for more than 3 children nowadays.
Ideal plan: date in early 20s, marry in mid 20s, have 3 kids one year apart in late 20s-early 30s.
Almost no biological risk, figure is not ruined early, more than enough couple time.

If only the powers that be didn't try to deny people that ideal life.

@Moon @kaia @yangwenli @nerthos @ageha I don't think those health issue can be connected to pregnancy (unless she had the kids at like 13)

@yangwenli @kaia @matrix @Moon @nerthos
dying in her 30s while they're all going through highschool

and when they live (like my mother, who only had 6 kids) it's at least hysterectomy and heart problems and a mixed bag of other things (diabetes? autoimmunity?
@ageha @kaia @yangwenli @matrix @Moon I genuinely believe your metric for health standards is off the mark. Most of the women with 5+ kids I know (most of them from my grandparents' or my parents' generations) didn't have any health complications until their 50s-60s, except a few who had accident-related health issues like a bad hip from a motorcycle crash.

Perhaps the people in your area have atrocious health or congenital problems.
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@matrix @yangwenli @kaia @matrix @Moon

18 May your fountain be blessed,
and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth.
19 A loving doe, a graceful deer—
may her breasts satisfy you always,
may you ever be intoxicated with her love.

you may however always be satisfied with your wives breasts
always
@yangwenli @kaia @Moon @matrix Let thy vein be blessed, and rejoice with the wife of thy youth: Let her be thy dearest hind, and most agreeable fawn: let her breasts inebriate thee at all times: be thou delighted continually with her love.
- Proverbs 5:18-19
@yangwenli @Moon @kaia @matrix nowhere, I just thought the dispute is about le sex bad
@grips @Moon @kaia @matrix read the thread it was about making children vs choosing not to and having sex "for fun" like homos
@kaia @yangwenli @Moon @matrix

not for the sole purpose of procreation
but
not against procreation
fagot
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