@yangwenli
>not worshipping your wife as a god
smh, not very feminist of you

@matrix I am a proud sexist

@yangwenli

@yangwenli @matrix sex is great whats the problem

@Moon @matrix no

@yangwenli @matrix @Moon
even Catholic church says sex is great (as long as it's between a man and a women for the sole purpose of procreation) (you don't need to be married)

@kaia @matrix @Moon sex is hedonism and should be done for procreation you coomer

@yangwenli @kaia @matrix strictly speaking the Catholic Church is okay with sex for pleasure as long as it's also for procreation.

@Moon @kaia @matrix THAT JUST MEANS ITS ONLY FOR PROCREATION BUT YOURE ALLOWED TO ENJOY IT

@Moon @kaia @matrix basically, never use a condom or birth control pills and youre fine.

@yangwenli @kaia @matrix you're using only wrong imo

@Moon @kaia @matrix dann red ich halt deutsch

@Moon @kaia @yangwenli @matrix
it's ok to have fun as long as you kill your wife while doing it

@ageha @kaia @matrix @Moon w-what? Go pray to your trees jap

@ageha @kaia @yangwenli @matrix wat

@Moon @kaia @yangwenli @matrix
making people have one baby a year for 10 years until they die

@ageha @kaia @matrix @Moon or they could just have less sex? Maybe get a bit less degenerate hobbies?

@yangwenli @kaia @matrix @Moon
no, the husbands like sex too much for that

@ageha @kaia @matrix @Moon you japanese are hopeless anyways

@yangwenli @kaia @matrix @ageha >_>

@Moon @kaia @matrix @ageha you were there, youd know

@ageha @kaia @yangwenli @matrix well i'm not defending it

@ageha @kaia @matrix @yangwenli i think the withdrawal method was permitted although obviously it doesn't really work

@Moon @kaia @yangwenli @matrix
catholic school i went to it was not allowed (football coach said so. he also had 11 children and a dead wife

@ageha @kaia @yangwenli @matrix woops yeah i was wrong. i would not make a good catholic (alive wife)

@Moon @kaia @yangwenli @matrix
something about "spilling seed"

@ageha @kaia @yangwenli @matrix yeah the story of Onana and Tamar, he spilled his seed on the ground and so God killed him, I forgot about it.

@Moon @kaia @matrix @ageha i swear this was a story about some guy marrying his brothers widow ?

@tiskaan @kaia @matrix @ageha it historically has been used to say masturbation is a sin, or coitus interruptus is a sin

@Moon @ageha @kaia @matrix @yangwenli That just means you need to put cum somewhere else. It's fine if it doesn't touch the ground.

@Moon @kaia @yangwenli @matrix @ageha
>alive wife
for now!

@ageha @kaia @matrix @Moon
>11 children
absolute

@ageha @kaia @yangwenli @matrix @Moon

do you know the reason she died?

@ageha @kaia @yangwenli @matrix @Moon Need stronger wife

@nerthos @kaia @matrix @Moon @ageha nobody can say she didnt have a filfilling life. So many children to be proud of

@yangwenli @kaia @matrix @nerthos @ageha i don't want my wife to die

@Moon @yangwenli @ageha @kaia @matrix Realistically, you have no use for more than 3 children nowadays.
Ideal plan: date in early 20s, marry in mid 20s, have 3 kids one year apart in late 20s-early 30s.
Almost no biological risk, figure is not ruined early, more than enough couple time.

If only the powers that be didn't try to deny people that ideal life.

@Moon @kaia @matrix @nerthos @ageha mommy*

@Moon @kaia @yangwenli @nerthos @ageha I don't think those health issue can be connected to pregnancy (unless she had the kids at like 13)

@yangwenli @kaia @matrix @Moon @nerthos
dying in her 30s while they're all going through highschool

and when they live (like my mother, who only had 6 kids) it's at least hysterectomy and heart problems and a mixed bag of other things (diabetes? autoimmunity?

@ageha @kaia @yangwenli @matrix @Moon I genuinely believe your metric for health standards is off the mark. Most of the women with 5+ kids I know (most of them from my grandparents' or my parents' generations) didn't have any health complications until their 50s-60s, except a few who had accident-related health issues like a bad hip from a motorcycle crash.

Perhaps the people in your area have atrocious health or congenital problems.

@nerthos @kaia @yangwenli @matrix @Moon
depends heavily on the quality of medical care, and that's getting worse over time for us people at least

@ageha @kaia @yangwenli @matrix @Moon A lot of the people I'm talking about lived in rural or underdeveloped areas between the 20s and 70s, so there was little medical care past dentists and emergency medicine in their youth. By today's medical standards, they were basically on their own.
I'm pretty sure their health was owed mostly to not having any serious congenital issues and leading a somewhat physically active life.

@ageha @Moon @kaia @matrix @yangwenli The biggest factor I can think of for pregnancy-related long term health decline is terrible nutrition during pregnancy. On that front I don't have any information regarding your demographic, since I don't know where you're from or anything like that.
Bad nutrition during pregnancy can lead to decalcification of bones and teeth, anemia, drastic loss of muscle tissue, organ damage, and a whole bunch of conditions that basically come down to starvation under stress. But that's more irresponsibility or idiocy on the part of the couple than ill will or malice.

@Moon @ageha @kaia @matrix @yangwenli Anecdotal: one of my grandmother's aunts had 21 kids and lived to around 70, my grandma is 81 now so this was early to mid XX century.

@Moon @yangwenli @kaia @matrix no, it is as long as it isnt against procreation

@matrix @yangwenli @kaia @matrix @Moon

18 May your fountain be blessed,
and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth.
19 A loving doe, a graceful deer—
may her breasts satisfy you always,
may you ever be intoxicated with her love.

you may however always be satisfied with your wives breasts
always

@special-boy @kaia @yangwenli @matrix @Moon ah, I see you already posted this
great minds think alike

@yangwenli @kaia @Moon @matrix
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@yangwenli @kaia @Moon @matrix hed onn deez nutz ayyyyyyy

@yangwenli @kaia @Moon @matrix Let thy vein be blessed, and rejoice with the wife of thy youth: Let her be thy dearest hind, and most agreeable fawn: let her breasts inebriate thee at all times: be thou delighted continually with her love.
- Proverbs 5:18-19

@grips @Moon @kaia @matrix where does it say that you should have sex with condoms

@yangwenli @Moon @kaia @matrix nowhere, I just thought the dispute is about le sex bad

@grips @Moon @kaia @matrix read the thread it was about making children vs choosing not to and having sex "for fun" like homos

@yangwenli @Moon @kaia @matrix only later on. fair enough