Holy shit I'm so retarded I can't even remember few kana characters :pepeHang:

I think I'm starting to remember them by their key presses, not sounds :pepeDread:

@matrix I learned them with pen and paper. I guess thats the advantage of doing it the oldschool way

@teto Probably yeah, but I'm crippled so when I tried that two years ago I gave up after like two weeks because it went too slow and was really exhausting.

@matrix I gave up after months of kanji torture. Also by hand on paper. It was just so boring.
I wish japs would just stick to kanas...
@matrix yes, that. I would only commit to that if I were to try to became literally japanese. Since I am a white guy, that would make no sense.
@matrix also the "example" of hiragana/katakana here would literally be solved by just using spaces. Anyone who uses the "no spaces allowed" argument is disingenuous. Like the french are with their spelling.
@matrix I'm mosty an auditory learner. I couldnt spell most english words if they were too french for quite a while. Even if I could speak no problem. Corrections in browsers and on phones "taught" me but even now I use it as my crux often.

@teto skill issue imho, english has fairly easy spelling and i mostly learned by listening too.
autocorrect is bad, i forgot a lot of spellings for both czech and english due to using autocorrect.

@matrix "skill issue" he says. Working with slavs recently taught me that I actually am one of the few understandable ESL speakers on this fucking contintent.
@matrix neither of my parents can speak english or russian. Has nothing to do with soviets.

@teto skill issue imo, my parents could speak russian very well when they were my age and still could get around when they visited russia (although they forgot a lot due to not using it).
english only started getting seriously taught here in the late 00s and just schools teaching it isn't enough, you need parents and siblings good at the language for it to stick. sweden has almost everyone bilingual since they've been teaching it for decades and the tiny iq difference doesn't doesn't explain such a drastic difference.

@matrix if you say skill issue again im not responding to you anymore
@matrix my family is working blue collar class. Call me genetic trash. Whatever. Fuck you.

@teto it's fully understandable they can't speak english since they weren't taught at school. mine can't speak it either much. communism delayed teaching of it by basically 40 years.

@matrix english is taught on every level in german schools. So was russian in east germany and poland. Nobody in my family speaks anything other than german.
@matrix I am the exception to everything. Including being a gigavirgin.
@matrix you dont need english to work in a factory scrubbing walls. Nor do you need it to be a shift worker in security. Nor do you need it to be an electrician. Me being a linux autist is the one in a million for this family. I'm also the first one to own land. Before this, most of my ancestors worked for the catholic church or were serfs.

@teto that was most people in the past. my grandpa was a cooper.
However the remainder of the family were farmers with land.

@matrix my grandmother grew up after the war. She still had 3 husbands and 5 children before my dad was born.
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@teto @matrix
I thought your dad came from a large lineage of incels
@Kagekokoro @matrix they were always the last in line, sure. But having sex means you are not an incel. It's in the name.
@Kagekokoro @matrix my grandfather and my father both were the "last choice"
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@matrix appeal to authority. Colonial france forced the vietnamese to use our alphabet.

@teto vietnamese doesn't have many homophones and it still didn't translate fully

@matrix don't really care. I reject the chink writing system. As a white man I have the superiority in any case.
@matrix some ruskies cry about the poles using the latin script to this day.
@apropos @matrix colonialism was correct and we should do it again, hurensohn
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