@OrganicNectar96 “violence isn’t the answer” says gov’t as it keeps a semi militarized group of armed enforcers to push their rules and protect their power.
@realcaseyrollins @shebang @OrganicNectar96 The violence you're seeing now will just make people more racist lmao
@adrint @realcaseyrollins @OrganicNectar96 @shebang Exactly. People can support police reform, but how do they support violence like this? If there are good reforms that happen, I hope that people won't look back at this time and think it was the violence or destruction here that made it happen.
@realcaseyrollins @sim @OrganicNectar96 @shebang It's one thing to get beaten up for non-violent offences, but behaving remotely aggressive towards armed agents of the state and getting surprised when you get shot will always be pants-on-head retarded in my book.
@adrint @realcaseyrollins @OrganicNectar96 @shebang Yeah. I mean, what are the armed agents supposed to do at that point? They are being attacked, fight/flight kicks in and at some point they will defend themselves. Especially if they feel that their life is at risk. They'll take a few hits because they don't want to look bad, but then attack.
@sim @OrganicNectar96 @realcaseyrollins @shebang Which then the state will promptly use to erode more civil liberties for "security"
@sim @adrint @OrganicNectar96 @realcaseyrollins I don't give the agents of the state a pass. They willingly took a job oppressing and stealing from people. No one made them do that, they were offered power and authority over others and they took it.
The rioters are no better, mind you, here is a chance to steal and loot and they decided go for it. Both are useless, harmful elements.
The rioters are no better, mind you, here is a chance to steal and loot and they decided go for it. Both are useless, harmful elements.
@realcaseyrollins @OrganicNectar96 @adrint @sim Yup, that's exactly what I'd like. I don't need or want jackbooted thugs: nothing more than highwaymen. I reject their claim to authority over me in the same way you reject the authority of Queen Elisabeth over you.
But don't play stupid. You know that those thugs are also precisely who stops me from protecting myself, I can't use a gun in self defense in Canada. If I so much as have one on me, these authoritarian fucks will kidnap me and put me their prisons.
I do not mourne the deaths of police, fuck em, they chose their side.
But don't play stupid. You know that those thugs are also precisely who stops me from protecting myself, I can't use a gun in self defense in Canada. If I so much as have one on me, these authoritarian fucks will kidnap me and put me their prisons.
I do not mourne the deaths of police, fuck em, they chose their side.
@realcaseyrollins @shebang @OrganicNectar96 @adrint To be fair, cops are pretty useless. Aside from to give the illusion that there is law and order.
@realcaseyrollins @OrganicNectar96 @shebang @adrint Then again, I'm not from the US either. They are basically just a deterrent. If you're lucky, they'll be able to press charges for your case but most often it doesn't happen.
They won't get there on time, and we don't have self-defence in the same way as the US. If someone decides to rob or harm you, that's sort of it. You'll have to use less force than them and prove that it was reasonable force used to protect yourself. But you can't have weapons just laying around. So if they are stronger or have a weapon, you're fucked.
They won't get there on time, and we don't have self-defence in the same way as the US. If someone decides to rob or harm you, that's sort of it. You'll have to use less force than them and prove that it was reasonable force used to protect yourself. But you can't have weapons just laying around. So if they are stronger or have a weapon, you're fucked.
@realcaseyrollins @OrganicNectar96 @shebang @adrint Yeah. I don't know how effective they are here. I mean, in the moment they can break up fights or file reports. But whether more than that happens... less so.
@realcaseyrollins @OrganicNectar96 @shebang @adrint It's like they make the police's point for them, and the police don't even need to do anything. I feel bad for the youths being set up though.
