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Yeah this gets infuriating a times

My brother's black roommate said he was "disappointed" in me for disagreeing with him smh
@sim

@realcaseyrollins @_p But why do you have to conform to his opinions? Is he not aware that it is rare to find someone who agrees with all his opinions? Especially when you get down to experiences/perspectives and preferences.

@sim @_p@shitposter.club Well most African-Americans generally have similar opinions on these racially-charged political topics, so I could see why he would expect me to agree with him, but it's another thing to be "disappointed" in someone else just for their opinion.

Now thankfully, I don't really care what he thinks. Most of my brother's friends are pretty wack anyways. But it was still odd to me and a bit frustrating. Not because of what he thinks of me, but what that would mean for other black friends of mine who might feel how he does.

@realcaseyrollins @_p If he didn't take that expectation for granted then he shouldn't be disappointed in you having a different opinion. He would realise there is a diverse amount of opinions out there as well.

So you are worried about what your own black friends would think if they knew you held your opinion but they held one as he does? That would make sense. Especially considering it sounds a lot more conformist there.

@sim @_p@shitposter.club Yeah...it is frustrating because white people are (kind of) allowed to have different opinions on these topics, but black people aren't.

White privilege, I guess.

@realcaseyrollins @sim @_p

I wouldn't even say that's white privilege, that's a damn echo chamber brought on by the stupidity of the masses.

It's the same shit they do on reddit, either you're woke or your the enemy.
@realcaseyrollins @_p @sim

Oh one other thing i hear get thrown a lot is as such. Think this one was from a [[white]] journo:

"White people containerize, Black people Internalize"

That line always came off as BS to me, since control of emotion is dictated by discipline and conscious control.

Mainly think that because I remember a time as a kid where strong emotion could just let loose, as I simply had no comprehension on how to temper them.

As for traumatic events though, all people internalize. It just seems to be a matter of what kind of event.
@milo @_p @realcaseyrollins Yeah. Also, if white people didn't internalise then I don't think white guilt would hold so much sway in the public opinion. Internalising is one tactic that humans have to help them survive situations they are in, especially when they don't have control over what is happening to them. It is worse for little children who hold even less control compared to the adults around them.
@sim @_p @realcaseyrollins internalization of guilt, or even hatred has to either breed from trauma, and/or brainwashing by drilling that guilt or hatred into them
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> drilling that guilt or hatred into them

This is actually still trauma, but a more social trauma.

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@realcaseyrollins @sim @_p

It's more a malicious discipline that hijacks the same methods of teaching good morals.

> Kids are like little sponges, absorbing all the information around them and trying to make sense of it.
@realcaseyrollins @_p @sim i mean if you think about it, teaching good morals is sometimes traumatic, because it's usually in response to doing the wrong thing.

@milo
This is true. But teaching one bad morals and life lessons is damaging in the long run and causes more hurt and trauma later in life
@sim @_p@shitposter.club

@realcaseyrollins @sim @_p to us looking down from the nosebleeds? Yeah. To the abusive single mother who only ever knew the pain and trauma? it's a day in the park.

@milo
Yeah. I mean it takes time to register trauma too, some people ignore it or tell themselves it's just normal.
@sim @_p@shitposter.club

@realcaseyrollins @sim @_p if that's all they ever know? it's often assumed to be normal until later in life, if circumstances change.
@milo @realcaseyrollins @_p Yeah, what is there a comparison for? Also, what if your reaction is normal but other people make it out to be a crazy reaction?
@sim @_p @realcaseyrollins

that's the million dollar question about societal norms.
@milo @_p @realcaseyrollins I wonder what things would be like if all societal norms were crazy.
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