Portland is so fucked right now. The government is "disappearing" people. I don't ever want to hear the right-wing utter the word "freedom" again unless they're against this: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/18/opinions/portland-anonymous-security-forces-mark-of-dictatorship-ghitis/index.html

@alex Is there a different way we want the feds to arrest the members of a terrorist organization? 🤔

@realcaseyrollins I mentioned this in the comments already, but I'm not opposed to people being arrested for breaking a law. I'm opposed to the government breaking the law. This should concern any free-thinking individual, if we don't play into tribe dynamics.

@alex I'm just not sure what law is broken here...a lot of these people are being detained after they've committed violence. Is the car supposed to look different? IDK would that make it more palatable for you and others concerned by this?

@realcaseyrollins Yes... like do you value transparency in government? Do you think the government should be honest? Then they should absolutely identify themselves instead of going around vanning people in unmarked cars.

@alex

> they should absolutely identify themselves

Hmm, well they're outfits are clearly marked, so it's easy to tell that these are federal officers. Is there something else you would like them to do? It doesn't seem like what they're doing now violates any sort of law, that I'm aware of.

Source: criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-

> instead of going around vanning people in unmarked cars.

I would like this too. I think they might be using unmarked vehicles to avoid attacks on their vehicles, that have become commonplace on the vehicles used by law enforcement.

However, it's not illegal to use unmarked vehicles.

> do you value transparency in government?

This is a good point. I'm pretty sure these officers are going after , but it would be great to have an official explanation as to why these people are being detained. Something like, "we're arresting people because they're part of a terrorist organization" or "we're arresting people because they were committing acts of violence" would be nice.

@realcaseyrollins I think we generally agree on the way things should be handled, but have a different take about what's actually happening and how bad it is.

@alex @realcaseyrollins I respect anyone who's willing to talk to people from opposing viewpoints without resorting to strawmen and name calling, even if I disagree.

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