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@cirno
Well actually if you go to early Old Testament law (I think it's in the Levitical law) there's a law that punishes someone extra if they somehow injure a pregnant woman and the unborn baby dies. I think that's where the biblical mandate against abortion comes, largely.
@mewmew @kaniini

@kaniini @mewmew @realcaseyrollins I think morally, a women should carry it to term since it's the potential for another soul to come into this world. If financially unstable, putting the child up for adoption. That said I do believe a lot of foster homes to be under developed so I'm not sure how viable that is an option, though I'd argue just about any foster child you ask would rather be alive than not
@cirno @mewmew @realcaseyrollins

besides, "choose life: your mother did" is a more effective message for anyone who respects the sanctity of life.
@cirno @kaniini @realcaseyrollins dogs and pigs are about as intelligent, are you opposed to killing them too?
@kaniini @mewmew @realcaseyrollins Going back to the argument, I feel as if killing a dog is wrong and so is killing a baby. Despite any studies on neocortex development. Humans should have morals, and those morals shouldn't depend on if certain parts of the brain are "developed enough".

Hell, I don't even see why this conversation is happening, or what you're trying to prove here. You're trying to prove why babies don't "count" yet you don't support post-birth killing. So why the talk on neuroscience?
@cirno @mewmew @realcaseyrollins

(incidentally, the lack of the DMN is why nobody has memories of childhood before being a toddler. the DMN is what enables episodic memory.)
@kaniini @mewmew @realcaseyrollins Even so, it varies from child to child. It's not something you can actually quantify. And I'd argue a baby being able to say "mama" counts as sentient in my book
@kaniini @realcaseyrollins @mewmew >childhood sentience does not start until 2 or 3
I think that's an incredibly dangerous (and incorrect) line of thinking. I'd rather not normalize "post-birth" abortions. For me, any time during the first trimester is reasonable

Y'all ever consider that these riots are more similar to the Revolutions of 1848 over in than the Boston Tea Party? 🤔

@kaniini @realcaseyrollins @cirno @mewmew Sorry for interrumpting your talk 😅. I personally think both are needed, sex education specially. Here in México things are not going well in abortion ways, for some reason people thinks that girls are going to abort two times a week or something.

@kaniini
That's total bull; ignoring the bodily autonomy argument (in regards to abortion), Conservatism restricts rights all the time. If you're going to provide ultimate rights and bodily autonomy for all, you would need either a libertarian or anarchist state.
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