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@amerika @l0wk3y @freemo Yep. This is why there * will * eventually be another secession. We're actually already witnessing its unofficial beginnings.

Proof you cannot have a nation without universal values and goals.

@realcaseyrollins @l0wk3y @freemo

No, we've realized on some level that we want totally different things.

The Right wants Mayberry, the Left wants Haight-Ashbury.

@freemo @l0wk3y It's not that, necessarily; it's just that nobody is listening to those who are offering good solutions, and even if they are, they're not running for office.

The politicians we really need are normal people who have brains but they never ever run, unfortunately.

Monica Lewinsky took a knee. America never forgot.

@realcaseyrollins

While I do think the police need curtailing I dont see anyone doing it in the right way. I dont have high hopes anyone will solve the problem just because americans arent very good at solving problems anymore, even ones as simple to solve as this.

@l0wk3y

@shpuld @sampo and ironically, they're so blazingly unpopular with the common person that they require constant inflow of billionaire donations and corporate media support to prevent them from becoming as unpopular and un-influential as the KKK.

The KKK's legal organizations were defeated with endless lawsuits for all the damage they did and crimes they committed. I foresee the same fate for Antifa and BLM.

Related, at the current rate of purity spiraling, I wouldn't be surprised if they starting literally lynching people with nooses for "justice".
@shpuld @sampo
>a fictional anti-postmodern warning world
It is like that, strangely.

They've become a real, unironic caricature of what Alex Jones warned of.

@realcaseyrollins

Then youa re concerned with PR, you just dont think that PR should effect how they uphold the law... unfortunately thats kinda where all the protests come from. All they really care about is how the police treat them..

Thats the tricky part its gotten so excitable out there even somewhat reasonable responses to a gang of rioters is going to create more riots not less.

Things are going to get worse and worse until there are some pretty major laws in place that curtail the police in some way.

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@freemo @l0wk3y In a sense I do care, but I don't think PR should prevent officers from doing their job. There are other things officers can do to build mutual goodwill, as I listed in my above reply.

@freemo @l0wk3y

> Did the people who witness the situation say to themselves "fuck the police im more pissed".

I don't care.

> Just because people didnt rush the cop in anger doesnt mean that the impression they left on the community lead the bigger picture in the right direction.

Again, don't care. Doing their job and ensuring the safety of the community is probably more important than PR.

We're seeing this now actually, police making PR moves that is forcing them to commit more harm to citizens, such as using rubber bullets instead of tear gas because people are saying "look, they're gassing the people! The barbarians." Tear gas rarely leaves permanent injuries like rubber bullets can. People say "oh they're just rubber bullets" but they can actually be extremely dangerous!

> People are easily triggered right now is all.

While many conservatives, including the ones I watch and listen to, are opposed to officers kneeling, and frankly while I'm not a huge fan of it from a small picture viewpoint (for imagery reasons I don't think having a bunch of white cops kneeling like Chauvin did is necessarily a good look but that's just me) I think it's important and at time necessary to join the protesters and show that you support them to build mutual goodwill between the officers and the citizens, for this very reason. Remember, cops can get triggered too, and that leads to even worse results since they're armed and stuff, so it's important to keep the citizens happy when possible.

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