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@11112011 You need to drink water, checkmate

@nobody Yes, now maybe weirdos will stop trying to molest him.

@moth @jojo @realcaseyrollins

I love that you say

I argue that the chaos and volatility that you’re attributing to anarchy are actually coming from the political structure shifting.

You convey a point I’ve struggled to convey across the last month, very well. In a time where those who we’re supposed to consider authorities of current events are little more than yellow journals, I find it really important to find the right words and idioms and even religious stories that can better give a lens into what one is trying to describe. Language is, in the language of opsec, a vulnerability surface.

@moth @jojo @realcaseyrollins Thank you for this. I tend to think of anarchy from a very Machiavellian perspective — which is to say, States exist in a state of anarchy between each other, and citizens exist within the governments their states give them.

@realcaseyrollins @shebang @jojo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anarchist_communities

The list isn't short, nor is every instance recognized.

@realcaseyrollins @jojo I don’t think it does anyone any good to encourage the delusions these people have that CHOPAZZLE was somehow a separate country for a few weeks, or indulging them in their fantasies of violent anarchy. They like to take words and change their meanings, in order to justify themselves — my dog in this fight is I’d rather well-intentioned people didn’t aid them in that.

@kino @shebang

Just as there are different instances of government, there are also different instances of anarchy. The tensions that cause conflicts would do so in either case. (Is Somalia less violent with an official state?)

In both cases the pragmatic approach is to treat the world as if it were anarchist anyway. e.g. "I own a gun because I don't want to wait for the government response."

I argue that the chaos and volatility that you're attributing to anarchy are actually coming from the political structure shifting. In cases where the structure is imposing more, it's directly manifest -- cops forcing people to follow laws, etc. In cases where the existing structure fades too quickly the individuals have to adjust to the new reality drastically, and there's a flurry of imposition as new structure emerges and existing struggles can be expressed, but if the structure is repealed with intention, and in proportion to the ability of the individual to self-sustain, I don't think you would see the same chaos.

@realcaseyrollins @jojo My only disagreement would be that the governing authorities did exist, in the form of the Mayor and Governor, but they chose not to act specifically for reasons of maintaining their power within the sect that agrees with the insurgents.

@realcaseyrollins @tuxcrafting @shebang @jojo

Anarchy only describes the formal power structures, it doesn't dictate peaceful or violent, and you will find both. Somalia has been a poster-child for violent anarchy for a long while, while peaceful communities of anarchists are not even rare.