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@NBForrest Blacks are too if they support or defend a business. Ever heard of ?

See what you said about black people not caring proves me right. If it was a race war they'd only attack white businesses.

@freemo @cy @realcaseyrollins @realcaseyrollins its really easy to say this when youre not in the situation. When the person who has already fought you off once is reaching for a knife while youre still wrestling with them youre going to use whatever force is available to you to defend yourself

@valleyforge @freemo @realcaseyrollins @realcaseyrollins Maaaaybe they should train them to be a teeeensy bit less trigger happy?

Like shoot once and if it connects he’s probably disabled from the pain and shock, so just watch his gun arm. Knife arm. Potential knife arm. Sure it would get a few more cops killed, but it would save so many more innocent lives from being shot dead, and isn’t that what the police do? Put their life on the line to save the lives of innocents?

If all they’re trying to do is kill the bad guys without taking any risks, then they can just fire bomb his car from a distance, or at least firebomb the local block. No cops lives would be put at risk then! Much safer.

@realcaseyrollins The #fediverse of already full of instances run by #antifa and #blacklivesmatter sympathisers. It's an open source intelligence gold mine.

@valleyforge @freemo Wow. The full story might never be told! I'm sure both the shooter and the officers will be quite biased in their accounts of events

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They weren't wearing body cams. Their department doesn't have them.

@steph @realcaseyrollins is there a server in northeast us / eastern Canada where I could get it from?

Ubuntu seems to be taking a lot of time, it could be my connexion however.

@realcaseyrollins

I think we are on the same page more often than you realize honestly. When we do disagree it tends to be on minor points or points that just arent very easy to determine factually what happened.

Our guts tend to disagree, but our logic often tends to agree on many subjects I find.

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Im always naturally suspicious of cops as they do have a habit of planting evidence and covering up their murders when they happen. so to me body cam footage or something more concrete to show he was clearly reaching for his weapon will go a long way to settling any doubts... But for now I do concede that if the knife turns out to be legit and if it is true he was reaching for it then the cops had justification in firing, even if I feel their reaction was disproportionate to the situation.

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No i agree, if he was actually trying to get a knife to fight officers, and especially considering they already tried to tase him, then I could see self defence being appropriate. I still feel they over reacted, but its less grievous in that case.

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@freemo @valleyforge @realcaseyrollins@kafuka.me I been waiting for the body cam too. It still feels like a gray situation to me. I'm sure the footage exists, they just don't want it released, like with .

@realcaseyrollins

Fair, then id say this is a bit ambiguous.. specifically because the knife is on the floor (which suggests he may have had it in his hand when shot.. Thought here SHOULD have been body cams so we could see if this is the case.

But yea if it can be shown he had the knife in his hand when shot or was clearly reaching for it then I would cut the officers a bit more slack. A body cam would have went a long way to prove this. Ultimately i suppose i will wait to see wht evidence in that regard comes to light to confirm he was actually reaching for the knife.

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