@anornymorse Ooh, good point!
@anornymorse I suppose that political parties use physical force, with police officers. But they also can threaten to take away benefits that people rely on, if they don't vote for them.
@anornymorse @dsfgs @shampoobottle @nerdman note that I am only arguing for enforcing my morality on others up to a specific point; if no one is causing physical harm to anyone else or violating their rights, I don't really have a right to tell others what to do. The only reason I'm arguing against abortion is because I believe it violates the rights of the fetus, which is human. (If a fetus is not human, there's no justifiable reason to ban abortions, in my book.)
@anornymorse Size and the kinds of power that are used.
@maison_faim A lil lonely tbh (it ebbs and flows) but otherwise, fine!
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@anornymorse
Well, that needs to change, then.
I'm not sure what the difference is between being born with rights and being given them by God tho.
@dsfgs @shampoobottle @nerdman
@anornymorse
It goes like this; three are freedoms people can have. Freedom of speech is one of them. A government can choose to revoke as many of these as they wish, depending on its structure. If a government revokes one of them, either completely or partially (right to private property, for instance, is slightly revoked by taxes and gun laws), they still have the remaining freedoms.
Of course, I completely understand if one feels that if one freedom is removed, they don't have freedom. For you, perhaps, it's killing babies. For me, it would definitely be freedom of speech and religion. But the reality of distinct freedoms must not be forgotten.
@dsfgs @shampoobottle @nerdman
@anornymorse
Do you have better arguments than this? Or no?
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@anornymorse
Of course.
You can have varying degrees of freedom, and it's highly erroneous to say you either have complete freedom or none at all.
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@anornymorse
The police is enforcement. We agree.
@dsfgs @kick @mewmew @shampoobottle @nerdman @a7
@anornymorse
When did I say someone can be "a little pregnant"?
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@anornymorse
Wait, when did I conflate the two?
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@anornymorse @dsfgs @kick @mewmew @shampoobottle @nerdman @a7
I do see the issue. This is one that we're actually wrestling with in the midst of the #Coronavirus. I do not, however, fall into the fallacy that people either have complete bodily autonomy, or none at all.
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