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@kaniini @mewmew @realcaseyrollins I think morally, a women should carry it to term since it's the potential for another soul to come into this world. If financially unstable, putting the child up for adoption. That said I do believe a lot of foster homes to be under developed so I'm not sure how viable that is an option, though I'd argue just about any foster child you ask would rather be alive than not
@cirno @mewmew @realcaseyrollins

besides, "choose life: your mother did" is a more effective message for anyone who respects the sanctity of life.
@cirno @kaniini @realcaseyrollins dogs and pigs are about as intelligent, are you opposed to killing them too?
@kaniini @mewmew @realcaseyrollins Going back to the argument, I feel as if killing a dog is wrong and so is killing a baby. Despite any studies on neocortex development. Humans should have morals, and those morals shouldn't depend on if certain parts of the brain are "developed enough".

Hell, I don't even see why this conversation is happening, or what you're trying to prove here. You're trying to prove why babies don't "count" yet you don't support post-birth killing. So why the talk on neuroscience?
@cirno @mewmew @realcaseyrollins

(incidentally, the lack of the DMN is why nobody has memories of childhood before being a toddler. the DMN is what enables episodic memory.)
@kaniini @mewmew @realcaseyrollins Even so, it varies from child to child. It's not something you can actually quantify. And I'd argue a baby being able to say "mama" counts as sentient in my book
@kaniini @realcaseyrollins @mewmew >childhood sentience does not start until 2 or 3
I think that's an incredibly dangerous (and incorrect) line of thinking. I'd rather not normalize "post-birth" abortions. For me, any time during the first trimester is reasonable

Y'all ever consider that these riots are more similar to the Revolutions of 1848 over in than the Boston Tea Party? 🤔

@kaniini @realcaseyrollins @cirno @mewmew Sorry for interrumpting your talk 😅. I personally think both are needed, sex education specially. Here in México things are not going well in abortion ways, for some reason people thinks that girls are going to abort two times a week or something.

@kaniini
That's total bull; ignoring the bodily autonomy argument (in regards to abortion), Conservatism restricts rights all the time. If you're going to provide ultimate rights and bodily autonomy for all, you would need either a libertarian or anarchist state.
@mewmew @cirno

@kaniini @realcaseyrollins Oh, I don’t know, they do tend to have some minor differences in the precise form their ideal State takes. The anti-gun thing of the “left” vice the anti-… not sure what to call it. Not really sex thing but whatever one wants to call it.. on the “right” for instance

@wolfie @realcaseyrollins but that's the point, both have the same actual ideal world is one of a corporatocracy. the rest is PR.

@realcaseyrollins @kaniini To various degrees, both ‘sides’ are ultimately Statists. The only real difference is exactly which form and flavor the State takes in their ideal world

@realcaseyrollins @djsumdog But.. but.. we need to know the critical forecast for this weekend :laughing_cirno:

@realcaseyrollins Yep. Apparently the first time any police department has been sued for human rights violations (at least by their state government). https://nu.federati.net/notice/3315102

@cirno
I mean I'm strongly anti-abortion () but y'all make great points about the opposing contraception, esp. the religious right.

The fringer segments of the religious are particularly peculiar on this. They are against sex ed in schools, fine, but don't seem to be for parents actually teaching them valuable things about sex and the various ways it's done and protections. They want to ban abortion, which again is a laudable goal, but tell people "don't have sex" instead of steering them towards methods of birth control that don't kill a fetus (preventative birth control, I think it's called)! Like we aren't dang Catholics! Opposing all birth control is * not * biblical.
@mewmew @kaniini

@mewmew @kaniini @realcaseyrollins Like 90% of Republicans claiming to fight for christian values have never read the book, they're only doing it to get the votes of actual worshippers (since they used to be the majority in america)

Y'all ever consider that these riots are more similar to the Revolutions of 1848 over in than the Boston Tea Party? 🤔

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