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@alex @l0wk3y @realcaseyrollins @shebang I've heard Mastodon referenced probably a dozen times by people who don't use it. They have a certain degree of name recognition that's more than what people here give them credit for.
@l0wk3y @realcaseyrollins @shebang But it's not just ActivityPub, it's also marketing and sales. Mastodon has that part own. So many people know what Mastodon is (hundreds of thousands) and have no clue what the Fediverse is. They think Mastodon _is_ the Fediverse.
@alex @realcaseyrollins @shebang It's just activity pub. I mean anyone who want's to can create a new site or contribute.
@realcaseyrollins @shebang I think people will continue to use it, but they will be using something that's stagnant and obsolete.

The best thing is has going for it at this point is name recognition and brand presence. This will keep it relevant for a long time, until one of us can take that position. I'm gonna try to.
@realcaseyrollins @shebang @alex Mastodon FE is fine. Mastodon itself is bloated and overly complicated.
@realcaseyrollins @shebang I was trying to explain why I think Mastodon is stagnating and becoming obsolete. I speculate it's because Eugen is lacking the bravery and motivation he once had due to feeling demoralized.
@realcaseyrollins @alex @shebang When I first joined it used to push the TL down no matter where you were, that was really annoying.

@niggaflamebuttholeaids @mewmew @realcaseyrollins Oh. Then. umm.

Busshie? or how its spelt. One of them? One of mewmew’s servers lol.

I mean its his fork, surely he runs it somewhere….

@shebang @realcaseyrollins I think Eugen feels demoralized that many of his users hate him. I think deep down he knows this whole "cancel culture" thing is not good, but he's too deep now to change gears. It's part of the Mastodon brand.
@realcaseyrollins @shebang The timelines do auto-update, new posts just get captured in a queue you have to click to expand. Planning to make it a user preference in v1.1, but I don't think it's better without the queue. It pushes posts down the screen while you're trying to read them.

@realcaseyrollins @alex I agree with Alex here, I think Mastodon already feels dated somehow — mainly the direction the developers are going isn’t somewhere promising. Despite being the Capital of Cancel City, it has terrible moderation features even. Pleroma is upbeat and active, new stuff happening — stuff people actually want. There really isn’t a reason to use Mastodon that I can think of, with the sole exception of its language filtering.

Misskey is really fun, but its .. very quirky. I’m curious to follow its development though.

@shebang I think Pleroma is doing everything right on a fundamental level. The switchable frontends promotes longevity, as that piece can be upgraded or changed completely independently of the backend. This allows developers to take the software in pretty much any direction they want. I envision a future where backend development is consolidated on Pleroma, and there are many competing frontend options. The fact it's interoperable enough to do that is amazing.

Elixir is a good language choice, and it's extremely efficient, lowering the barrier of entry and making it cheap to spin up hundreds of servers. I love everything about it.

I played a lot with Misskey today and it impressed me at how feature rich it is, but I think Pleroma is a better foundation and they will catch up quickly on some features.

Mastodon is out of the question, lmao. It has its perks, but it's very quickly becoming obsolete.
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