@coolboymew @cereal @Moon Even the IQ testers say that it is not recommended to be used on individuals with autism because autistic people tend to have narrow interests.

@coolboymew @xianc78 @Moon That's entirely the point, it's not meant to test skills, it tests cognitive ability.

@cereal @xianc78 @coolboymew @Moon
It's also heavily skewed, obviously, by a person's motivation to actually solve the various puzzles.

Plenty of people I know are idiots *until* you frame a complex problem in the context of something they care about.

Also, while the concept of IQ is just a little bullshit to begin with, I think we can better depict it by removing a digit, making it a scale from 0 to 20, with 80% of people falling between 7 and 13.

@r000t @xianc78 @coolboymew @Moon Any test is influenced by your motivation to take it and do well, that is a moot point.

@cereal @xianc78 @coolboymew @Moon Right, so have calibrated tests that cover a wide variety of ways to present a problem to a person, etc.

@r000t @xianc78 @coolboymew @Moon You're free to validate every single one.

@cereal @xianc78 @coolboymew @Moon bruh I can't even get anybody to validate *me*

@r000t @xianc78 @coolboymew @Moon poor study design?

@cereal @xianc78 @coolboymew @Moon poor design in general, I think. Any other society would have killed me by now.

@r000t @cereal @xianc78 @coolboymew @Moon IQ tests are fairly scientific and interesting. They're meant to average over the curve of all people who take them. I think Peterson does the best explanation of them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSo5v5t4OQM

@djsumdog @xianc78 @cereal @coolboymew @Moon
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This also means that, ideally, a person's IQ falls over time, as the population gets more intelligent *around* them.

But uh.... yeah fat chance of that happening any time soon.

@r000t @xianc78 @cereal @coolboymew @Moon It's still the most scientific and accurate measure of intelligence we have though, with the least variability. You will rarely if ever see someone with an IQ of 70 in a University, and if they have an IQ of 70, they're going to be slow. It's stuck around because it is a good indicator of life choices and growth.

@djsumdog @xianc78 @cereal @coolboymew @Moon
It's the best predictor we have, and I'm not knocking it, I'm just saying that the entire population's getting fucking retarded

but also we should change the "display units". IQ in its current state imo implies a wider difference between any two individuals than really exists. I also think it'd put a stop to the "999999999IQ $thing" memes, making it more obvious it's a flat scale.

literally just drop a significant digit. what's the *functional* difference between someone with 135 and 140 IQ?

@djsumdog @xianc78 @cereal @coolboymew @Moon least significant* i'm high

@r000t @djsumdog @xianc78 @cereal @coolboymew @Moon
>what's the *functional* difference between someone with 135 and 140 IQ?

concerns about IQ aside, roughly speaking the 140 IQ guy will have about 10x as many genius offspring at 200+IQ as the 135 IQ guy will