Idk if yall haven't seen but the kiwifarms thing has been blowing up on Twitter. Literally outreach in the millions of people saying the same things I am here about them, it's just a small few here who have a weird attachment to them
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@ChristiJunior @eris @shebang @cowanon I don't even like KiwiFarms or its users but the push for it to get shutdown is ridiculous.

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@meowski @eris @cowanon @shebang @ChristiJunior I'm talking about the forum users, not the Pleroma ones. They're obsessed with losers on the Internet which makes themselves losers as well.

@xianc78 @ChristiJunior @eris @shebang @cowanon You'd better believe there's gonna be a lot more where that came from if it goes anywhere. Any leftist can shut down any criticism by threatening suicide and claiming it's cyberbullying. This shit cannot be tolerated or coddled or respected in any way. Commie villains are trying to kill free speech, that's all this is.

@ArdanianRight @eris @shebang @ChristiJunior @xianc78 @cowanon I mean here is the thing right. maybe they should kill themselves. and kiwi should bully them harder. not because they are trans or left. but because they think they have it hard now.

I dont even know these faggots and their problems are beneath me, but perhaps they should get more. they seem to deserve it.

@ChristiJunior @LoliKing @ArdanianRight @cowanon @eris @shebang @xianc78 it's partially because of this I have a vindictive attitude. Not that that's bad or anything

@ArdanianRight @eris @shebang @ChristiJunior @xianc78 @cowanon Left and right, politics aren't the problem.. behaviour is the problem, outlook, they choose which way to spiral outwards, in areas that they shouldn't. I constantly find myself thinking "if this being could adjust their tone we'd get along fine."

Some beings are confrontational when the situation doesn't need to and beings like that need to be checked, regardless of political, religious viewpoints.

@Angelee @ArdanianRight @eris @shebang @ChristiJunior @xianc78 @cowanon
It's faster to say leftie then self entitled shit that believes that others should slave avaw their lives in order to pay away any mistakes they had ever done. Incapable of gratitude, empathy or simple human decency.

It just doesn't roll off the tongue so well. :blobcoffee:

@Angelee @ArdanianRight @eris @shebang @ChristiJunior @cowanon KiwiFarms goes after various people regardless of their politics. They only show up in political discussions because there is a lot of lolcow drama with many of the political e-celebs and circles on the Internet. That includes the alt-right, skeptics, SJWs, breadtube, ancap furries, etc. It just so happens that SJWs and trannies create the biggest Internet drama right now and that trannies will NEVER be the ones responsible for their own suicides.

@ArdanianRight @xianc78 @ChristiJunior @eris @shebang > Any leftist can shut down any criticism by threatening suicide and claiming it's cyberbullying.
This has happened 6 gorillion times already.
@cowanon @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @shebang @xianc78 mmm I see FSE is still having its meltdown that free speech doesn't mean free of consequences despite being one of the most blocked instances on fedi
@eris @cowanon @ChristiJunior @shebang @xianc78 Nobody cares about getting blocked by you faggots. We're fighting to not be silenced. The whole point of this is to force Kiwifarms to shut down, not to just block or defederate from people.
@cowanon @ChristiJunior @eris @shebang @xianc78 What the hell does that mean? They're usually just compiling stuff people have publicly posted on social media.
@cowanon @ChristiJunior @eris @shebang @xianc78 Antifa goon squads do way worse. If you're going to shut down Kiwifarms you'd better shut down the fags who dox and try to get people fired for holding politically incorrect opinions.
@ArdanianRight @cowanon @ChristiJunior @eris @shebang @xianc78 But KF does go and dox people. I don't like anyone who does that, be it them or Antifa.
Their targets—and how far they go in pursuing them—are based on the individual whims of people with poor morals.

The thing with them ultimately not knowing much about Near isn't through their lack of trying.
@KoopaTV @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @eris @shebang @xianc78 I've seen threads on KF where they've dug up home addresses and personal phone numbers. "They were asking for it"? So is KF in being shut down.
@KoopaTV @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @cowanon @eris @shebang @xianc78 I remember being anti-doxxing. Now I'm anti-doxxing for people I like or am neutral towards. :0451:
@rasterman @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @KoopaTV @eris @shebang @xianc78 You are still fighting for social justice, just the social justice of your friends (whom, I suspect, are video game characters and nobody else).
@rasterman @cowanon @ArdanianRight @KoopaTV @eris @shebang @xianc78 This guy is the kind of faggot who thinks concepts like the "Horseshoe Theory" and "Rightwing SJWs" are super clever.
@cowanon @rasterman @ChristiJunior @KoopaTV @eris @shebang @xianc78 Are we really still doing the "If you use your enemy's tactics you're just as bad as they are" shit? If someone throws a punch at you you're allowed to fight back.
@KoopaTV @ChristiJunior @cowanon @eris @shebang @xianc78 I don't like that aspect of the site. Doxing should be off-limits. But forcing them to shut down would be a bad thing because it enables people to threaten suicide and cry harassment to silence anyone they don't like.
@ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @cowanon @eris @shebang @xianc78 I'm aware that slippery slopes are often real, but I'd like to think that the off-limits stuff isn't on the same slope path.
This isn't like defending hate speech=free speech; it's legitimately not free speech and there shouldn't be commonality.
@KoopaTV @ChristiJunior @cowanon @eris @shebang @xianc78 If you want to make "No doxing laws" that apply to everyone and that forces Kiwifarms to either shut down or change their policies, I'm fine with that. I'm not fine with shutting down sites by going after web service providers, financial providers, etc. because that's easily abused and usually one-sided.
@ArdanianRight @KoopaTV @cowanon @eris @shebang @xianc78 Start throwing journalists in jail whenever they "unmask" (aka dox) trolls and racists, and then we'll talk.
@ChristiJunior @ArdanianRight @cowanon @eris @shebang @xianc78 Reminds me of that Donald Trump wrestling CNN gif where they doxxed the dude who made the meme (or blackmailed him saying they'd dox him; one of those) and scared the hell out of him.
That's just as scornful.
@KoopaTV @ArdanianRight @cowanon @eris @shebang @xianc78 Yeah, that was disgusting. And the worst part was them acting like the guy had seen the error of his ways and come forward wishing to apologize, rather than them having blatantly threatened and blackmailed him.

MSM journalists are scum.
@KoopaTV @ChristiJunior @ArdanianRight @eris @shebang @xianc78 But according to right-wing SJWs like Ard and Chris, it's perfectly fine if it happens to anyone but their clan.
@cowanon @KoopaTV @ChristiJunior @eris @shebang @xianc78 I wouldn't say it's "fine." I'd rather it not be happening. But I'm not shedding any tears for open enemies who'd gladly destroy me if it happens to them.
@ArdanianRight @cowanon @ChristiJunior @eris @shebang @xianc78
On that note, I don't know what justifies Near specifically to be an "enemy." I'm not actually familiar with his political activity, but him being furry and having mental illnesses doesn't seem to justify what happened.
From his letter (even if there's plenty of questionable directions it went) it seemed like he was content having his head down and working on emulators and translations and keeping to himself rather than go into some kind of political activism on behalf of trannies or wotever.
@KoopaTV @ChristiJunior @cowanon @eris @shebang @xianc78 I don't really know anything about the guy in question. But threatening suicide as a way to get what you want isn't a good sign.
@ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @cowanon @eris @shebang @xianc78
I didn't see the suicide threat as a sign of them being an enemy of free-speaking people, but rather them being very unstable and ill and desperate (despite there being no compelling event for that desperation to happen that particular night).
Which is why they suddenly decided "well you ran out of time to talk to your lawyer!" in under 24 hours. That's not coming from a normal mindset.
Which probably means he'd be dead one way or another (unless KF caused all of his illnesses to begin with...?), but...
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@cowanon @ArdanianRight @eris @shebang @xianc78 Cataloging the lowcows and retards of the internet is a public service, especially since Encyclopedia Dramatica isn't what it used to be.
@cowanon @ArdanianRight @eris @shebang @xianc78 Oh yeah, it's *completely* arbitrary who gets labeled a Lolcow. These people don't do anything to earn that label...

I'm not a tranny furfag or an e-celeb, so I already have that going for me.
@ChristiJunior @ArdanianRight @eris @shebang @xianc78 Your past isn't clean. Nobody's is. But I assume any analogy I bring up won't be considered due to unwarranted pride in not losing an argument on the Internet.
@cowanon @ChristiJunior @eris @shebang @xianc78 I would be more sympathetic if this applied to everyone, but it sure as hell isn't going to be applied to people who hold the wrong politics, not even for a second. Only official victim groups get protected from their mistakes.
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It's also a justification rather than a refutation anyway, and directly after "just" minimization? You'd think these "strict authoritarian nationalistic" types would notice such sloppy arguing.
@cowanon @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @eris @shebang @xianc78 I half-way agree with this, the amount of people pretending KF does nothing wrong is retarded. it's a morally grey website doing morally grey things. it's also not my problem nor do I care, these kinds of websites will always exist so any kind of moral harpooning is just a waste of time and energy
@eris @cowanon @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @shebang @xianc78 Reading a publicly posted tranny suicide note is more joyous than hearing the news of your first born child.
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